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Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:16 pm

why are the bottoms of the rear aprons on alot of old t-3's so screwed up? I'm assuming it's from dropping the engin out or changing the exhaust. Is it that hard to be careful with the apron when doing work under there? Happens all the time, you look at nice t-3, go around back, look under the bumper and it's shaped like a piece of bacon!

Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:25 pm

Mosly from aftermarket mufflers. I rarly see one thats not fubar to one extent or another. Early single and dual quit packs are big culprits of this.

Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:57 pm

And owners that don't give a fsck. Dragging them off curbs, bending them out of the way to clear a cheap muffler. Rarely is it caused by pulling the engine. If you gave a fsck, you would get the car up higher.
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Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:59 pm

From backing into stuff?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:17 pm

Not too bad for a 200K farm car. Has spent most of its life on gravel roads.
http://classicvw.org/gallery/just_stuff/t_3_pictures_008

Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:20 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: Not too bad for a 200K farm car. Has spent most of its life on gravel roads.
http://classicvw.org/gallery/just_stuff/t_3_pictures_008

And that car has been sitting in that spot for almost 6 months, and notice, that it has not marked its territory. :wink:

Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:59 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: Not too bad for a 200K farm car. Has spent most of its life on gravel roads.
http://classicvw.org/gallery/just_stuff/t_3_pictures_008

I noticed that it is bent a bit on the passenger side, however... the same spot mine is bent...

coincidence?

Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:04 pm

blankmange wrote: [
I noticed that it is bent a bit on the passenger side, however... the same spot mine is bent...

coincidence?

Backing into snow drifts in the winter :?: :?: :?:
Oh, wait those SoCal boys don't know what those are :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:08 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: blankmange wrote: [
I noticed that it is bent a bit on the passenger side, however... the same spot mine is bent...

coincidence?

Backing into snow drifts in the winter :?: :?: :?:
Oh, wait those SoCal boys don't know what those are :lol: :lol: :lol:

mine is an original Kansas car, so it very well be snowdrifts...

Thu Mar 24, 2005 6:50 pm

Whats snow?

I can literaly count on one hand how many times Ive seen, been near snow. And 3 of those times was because I lived in Seattle for a year! :wink:

Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:34 pm

Seattle doesn't have snow, They have frozen rain. Snow is big flakes so thick you can't see, and wind blowing 30 mph out of the northwest. And when you wake up in the morning you can't open your house door.
:)

Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:13 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: Seattle doesn't have snow, They have frozen rain. Snow is big flakes so thick you can't see, and wind blowing 30 mph out of the northwest. And when you wake up in the morning you can't open your house door.
:)

I did exactly one winter north of Chicago, in sight of Lake Michigan... the coldest, nastiest winter I can remember... and snow exactly as you described... snot freezing in my nose, having to blink so many times a minute to keep my eyes from freezing...

why in the world do people live that far north? :)

Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:25 pm

blankmange wrote: Russ Wolfe wrote: Seattle doesn't have snow, They have frozen rain. Snow is big flakes so thick you can't see, and wind blowing 30 mph out of the northwest. And when you wake up in the morning you can't open your house door.
:)

I did exactly one winter north of Chicago, in sight of Lake Michigan... the coldest, nastiest winter I can remember... and snow exactly as you described... snot freezing in my nose, having to blink so many times a minute to keep my eyes from freezing...

why in the world do people live that far north? :)

I keep asking myself that everyday. :shock: I really do hate winter/snow. I really want to be some place warm and dry, but the wife can't handle that kind of weather. :( We did try it for a couple of years, I loved it, and she hated it, the kids were the same way, my daughter loved it, my son was miserable (allergies like his mom). :roll:

Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:46 am

Mmmm...snow. Something I miss from back home in Michigan.

Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:04 am

Mr. Bubblehead wrote: Mmmm...snow. Something I miss from back home in Michigan.

always knew you were a bit off-center....

Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:21 am

Here in N. Indiana it's snowing right now. It's probably not going to stick, but it's still disheartening to see. Yesterday it snowed like a mofo.

And by next week it's supposed to be 60 degrees. Go figure. :roll:

Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:40 am

Bobnotch wrote: blankmange wrote: Russ Wolfe wrote: Seattle doesn't have snow, They have frozen rain. Snow is big flakes so thick you can't see, and wind blowing 30 mph out of the northwest. And when you wake up in the morning you can't open your house door.
:)

I did exactly one winter north of Chicago, in sight of Lake Michigan... the coldest, nastiest winter I can remember... and snow exactly as you described... snot freezing in my nose, having to blink so many times a minute to keep my eyes from freezing...

why in the world do people live that far north? :)

I keep asking myself that everyday. :shock: I really do hate winter/snow. I really want to be some place warm and dry, but the wife can't handle that kind of weather. :( We did try it for a couple of years, I loved it, and she hated it, the kids were the same way, my daughter loved it, my son was miserable (allergies like his mom). :roll:

Move to Hawaii...warm 365 days a year, clean ocean air, trade winds to blow any pollution/allergens away...I now live in Seattle :x Yeah winters are "mild" but by Feb you are so sick of drizzle and a gray ceiling of 1000' that NEVER goes away that it's no wonder both alcoholism and suicide rate are probably higher than anywhere else :shock: God I miss home :cry:

Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:54 am

Here is my rear apron... The car is now getting painted and will have the rotors and drums drilled to Porsche 5 lug, and then The front disk's cross drilled. Motor will be a 1641. Anyways... The apron is PERFECT!!! No bends!

Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:54 am

blankmange wrote:
why in the world do people live that far north? :)

Well, where I live, you can still leave your doors unlocked, and the keys in your car. You know all your neighbors by their first name, and they will watch your place for 2 weeks while you go on vacation. The teenagers will actually do physical labor to earn some spending money, and won't cuss your grandma.
Is that enough reasons?? :?:
Oh, and another thing, we even get snow days from work. :lol:

Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:18 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: Seattle doesn't have snow, They have frozen rain. Snow is big flakes so thick you can't see, and wind blowing 30 mph out of the northwest. And when you wake up in the morning you can't open your house door.
:)

LOL!! Reminds me of my years in eastern Canada. Only there, it was the dreaded Northeast wind that was feared the most...right off the Atlantic. January storms on the east coast are NO fun. One of the few things I like about living in the desert.