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Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:02 pm

OK. going to run a 10" coil over beam with 3" lifted combo spindels. I want to use the billistien 7100 coil over that has 10" of travel> it is aprox 26" at length and 16 or so fully compressed. what leaght trailing arms would work best with set up. or if you know what is the distitance from the trailing arm piviot piont (bottom one) to the top shock tower. with that I could just some trig and figur out the best trailing are leaght.

Baja Ben

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:16 pm

I imagine you just want to use 2 1/4 x 1 inch over arms.That is pretty much your only option with a 10 inch shock to get maximum travel.You can buy longer arms(4in over) but i don't think a 10 inch shock will get you the travel. and with that length you will run into problems with tire clearance and the body unless you really lengthen the frame.

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:24 pm

10" will work with the 2" arms, but you're going to wish you had 12s

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:39 pm

prob is that the billstins dont come in coilovers for the 12s. I could just as easly push the frame out 3-5 inches more. that is not a prob. i just want to be able to utilez the most of the shox with out over extending it. i figured the 2 1/4 would be best but just not that sure. i will of course be geting the limiting straps and i want to fab up a bump stop. (using the billistin bump stops. just think that would be cool)
Baja Ben

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:43 pm

if you cant find coilovers, i think you're looking in the wrong places. most of the people using coilovers, are using LONG coil over shocks. try calling bilstein direct.

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:46 pm

it was on there web site. i was looking at there 7100 seires. i know that there is the 9100 but i dont carry that kinda of cash on me. and fox and king and race runners are all out to the question. but that is a good idea. i will call them directly. human interaction is alot more infromative than a computer screen.

Baja Ben

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:53 pm

What? more informative than a computer screen?The Samba mafia has all the info you could ever need.ha-ha. pushing the frame out 5 inches is a good idea anyway.How much travel are you looking for? i have 12 in coilovers and 2 1/4 arms and have right at 13.5 in of travel.And just curious, but are the bilstein coilovers that much cheaper than Fox or King? You really don't want to spend all that cash on longer arms and combo spindles and cheap out on shocks.

Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:15 pm

I was looking for about 10-12 fornt and back. (back i got figured out) and ya the billstien is that much cheaper. for a coil over with resovoir ( not inclueding the spring) would run roughly 500 per. i can the billstien with the spring for about 600 for both. and what do you mean cheap out on the shocks. HBB back me up hear billeistien is good.
Baja Ben

Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:15 pm

I'm not saying that Bilsteins aren't good shocks but they do offer different models and price ranges.Sleep off the hangover and get back to us tomarrow.

Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:39 pm

yeah, i'll also say sleep it off. and which prices were you looking at that were that high? king? fox? racerunner?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:08 pm

And drinking on a Monday night, you guys make me really proud.If only there was football to watch this would be heaven.

Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:36 pm

K,

question here. Why do you guys think a 10-nch coilover won't cycle enough for 4-inch arms? granted I am a fan of bigger is better, but I don't see your reasoning for the statements.

SHMO

Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:41 pm

i just checked the tweeds website. it should work. the shock mount is in the same place in relation to the beam. 4" arms will work fine, but i think you'll still have similar issues with not enough travel in the shock. the prices arent too different between sizes of shocks. why dont you just buy the arms first, then measure your travel to decide how long of a shock you will need

Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:03 pm

that is the best way to do the job. but i just like the vales and the rates in the billstien's plus the price is right. I will proabley do just that but i am bent on geting the billstiens. unless of course baja 5 you want to give yours :) . but thaks guys you are so helpfull. group hug.
Baja ben

Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:33 am

SHMO...

I bought your short Bilsteins --- do you have the other ones.

I'm sure you'd post yours for sale

So... yes or no should our friend search for your long 7100s

Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:44 pm

I do have some 14-inch travel Bilsteins I am selling. Mine are just reservoir shocks though, not coilovers. let me know if you're interested.

Personally, I do like to use the biggest, longest shock possible for a given application. And, reservoirs are always a bonus. It is just my way of cheating shock fade. My theory is; the larger the shock (containing more shock oil), the longer it will take to build heat.

However if the valve rates are within reason, you should be able to dampen any amount of travel with any length of shock. It all depends on your shock mount location and how hard you are willing to work the shock. Ideally, you would like to put the least amount of work onto the shock. This will require the least amount of valving and therefore allow the shock to perform the dampening easier and with less heat buildup.

My opinion is a 10-inch travel coilover will work just fine for this setup using either a 2.5 or a 4-inch trailing arm. However, things such as beam placement, fender clearance, shock mounts and ride height should be addressed, or bad things can happen.

SHMO