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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:10 am

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=177680

Turns out that Mike is only 1 mile from me, and the SB is in pretty good shape. The fan (and shroud) are off, and the fuel pump is on a kill switch so you can turn it off for start up :?: So I think I will be needing to pick at Tram's, and some others, brain. Fuel injection is greek to me.
I'm looking forward to the begining of the adventure though. I had thought my air-cooled days might be behind me after I moved back from Sacramento to Lansing. And here is an oppertunity :D

Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:22 am

Go for it.

The fuel pump should not be on a kill switch unless it's some sort of security measure.

Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:27 am

AirDaddy wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=177680

Turns out that Mike is only 1 mile from me, and the SB is in pretty good shape. The fan (and shroud) are off, and the fuel pump is on a kill switch so you can turn it off for start up :?: So I think I will be needing to pick at Tram's, and some others, brain. Fuel injection is greek to me.
I'm looking forward to the begining of the adventure though. I had thought my air-cooled days might be behind me after I moved back from Sacramento to Lansing. And here is an oppertunity :D

Don't get worked up thinking about "Fuel Injection". I knew nothing about FI or VWs when I started, and this turned out to be dirt simple. Getting the wiring up to snuff is the hard part - just making sure all the wires, relays, and connectors are good. And the great part is that the wiring diags for early FI actually look like wires on a car - not some crazy schematic thing. Once you whip that there are only 3 things to adjust: timing, idle speed, and fuel pressure. How hard is that?

Tony

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:52 pm

All the wiring diagrams are on my web site, and here on TheSamba too. (i think).
http://classicvw.org/gallery/Fuel-Injection-Manual
And, if you have questions about the automatic:
http://classicvw.org/gallery/automatic

Just go into my "gallery", and use the search function. If it is not there, let me know, and I will see if I can get it for you.

Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:14 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: All the wiring diagrams are on my web site, and here on TheSamba too. (i think).
http://classicvw.org/gallery/Fuel-Injection-Manual
And, if you have questions about the automatic:
http://classicvw.org/gallery/automatic

Just go into my "gallery", and use the search function. If it is not there, let me know, and I will see if I can get it for you.

Thanks, I have been reading through them already :)
Trying to get a leg up on info before I get started, it looks like from what I have read so far that there are no "new" wiring harnesses, so I will have to see what I can come up with. I'm thinking the whole car needs to be rewired (Although everything works) It just looks a little rigged.
After wiring I want to go through the front end and get some shocks in there and wheel bearings, he already has all new brakes. Then on to the rear end brakes and depending on what I find, bearings, shocks.. on, on, and on. :?
I want to beef up the engine and retain the FI, from what I have read it looks like it should be fine for a 1776. I would like to keep it auto with a stout 1776 FI. Do you think that going up to a 1915 would be foolish? Would the FI be up to it?

Well enough with my newbieness. At leat I know I can bag it with out sounding like a idiot :P

Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:48 pm

You can probably go 1900 cc with a little tweeking on the FI. Higher fuel pressure, and maybe 2.0L 914 Porsche injectors. It will be a learning curve tho.

Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:06 am

Russ Wolfe wrote: You can probably go 1900 cc with a little tweeking on the FI. Higher fuel pressure, and maybe 2.0L 914 Porsche injectors. It will be a learning curve tho.

Will it retainits durability? I read they run hotter with the 94 piston?
Where the hell is Tram? I figured he would be knee deep in this by now :D

Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:16 am

Russ Wolfe wrote: You can probably go 1900 cc with a little tweeking on the FI. Higher fuel pressure, and maybe 2.0L 914 Porsche injectors. It will be a learning curve tho.
Usually you'll need some MPS adjustment as well, which can get tricky.

The key is keeping a stock, super stock, or really mild cam so you don't change the vacuum in the intake drastically from what the computer is designed for. So don't go for a whopping cam!

For a 1900cc or up, the 2.0 injectors work well, but you need to make sure you get the ones designed for D-Jetronic, not L-Jetronic. The part number for the injectors that I use on my 2100cc stock FI Square is 039 906 031. The only bad thing is that NEW, these injectors run about $160 per each.

If you're not wild about spending +/- $700 for injectors alone, then go with a 1776cc. With stock injectors and a little MPS adjustment this will be a nice, strong, reliable motor.

Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:14 am

Thanks for the input. I just stumbled on another post for a solid 1776 that called for duals, but I'm thinking I will try it with the FI. I'm determined to keep the FI after reading Trams post on it. I like the idea of a solid engine with the FI (edit) and Auto in a hood ride. 8)

Going with the 2.0 injecters would be a bit pricey for me.

Thanks for all the continued help guys

Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:40 am

I think I have a couple 2.0L injectors, and probably an 039 pressure sensor. Maybe an 022 sensor also.
This stuff can be found used at the swap meets, and online, if you search around.