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Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:54 pm

Hello Guys,
does someone know which is the oldest known Kuebelwagen
Chassisnummer and bodynummer.
Thanks Christian
PS I found one and the man who sold it to me said it is the oldest in the world

Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:59 pm

That would be the prototype and probably in a Muesum. Maybe he means its old. I doubt its the oldest one in the world, whats the Vin Number? But I guess sometimes, you never know! Nice find. Pics?

Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:24 pm

Hi,
i forgot to write the numbers : chassis is 00066 and bodynumber is 176
build 1940
The car in the VW museum is from 1944.
I will post pictures the next days.
Bye Christian

Tue Sep 13, 2005 1:25 pm

The original Humber test kubel turned up in a barn in Scotland back in the 1970's-- can't get much older than the prototype. The body was missing but the pan and running gear was there.

You might ask over on the Yahoo Kubelwagen newsgroup:

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/KUBELWAGENCOUK/

Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:40 pm

I have a 40 chassis on my 44 body. Don't have the numbers off hand. Most Kubels I've seen are 42 and up, usually 44 the most common.

Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:31 am

...not perfect - but real

http://www.pixum.de/members/beetleaid/?act=a_view&...8326cadeae

[img]http://www.pixum.de/int/img.php?u=beetleaid&t=2&i3=!4804411544694473004844341586&ts=13040&np=1&sid=r4wz5dbd8219620af941626612692ee5[/img]

Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:57 pm

I'm no expert...but the VIN plate read "Volkswagenwerk". Seems like that early of a car would just say "KDF or whatever...I was under the impression that the "Volkswagenwerk AG" would not have come along till after the war? Please correct me if im lost?

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:20 pm

was an Organisation of the Nazi-Regime for the things people can do after work. They built Hotels, organisated hollydays, built ships - and they organisated the Volkswagenwerk in the late 1930s. On every original ID-Plate, the Volkswagenwerk is written as the producer - and as the type you can find the KDF Type xx.Volkswagen was named as "Volkswagen GmbH" - and in 1960 they moved the company into "Volkswagen AG"

For more information, please notice this official Volkswagen link:

http://www.volkswagen-ag.de/english/defaultNS.html

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:29 pm

Björn Schewe wrote: ...not perfect - but real

http://www.pixum.de/members/beetleaid/?act=a_view&...8326cadeae

[img]http://www.pixum.de/int/img.php?u=beetleaid&t=2&i3=!4804411544694473004844341586&ts=13040&np=1&sid=r4wz5dbd8219620af941626612692ee5[/img]

Not Perfect.... Would you care to tell us what is wrong with this less than perfect example. :?

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:37 pm

Steering wheel (what is that thing from) is wrong, front turn signal added, rear taillights wrong location, mudguards??, and camo bushes aren't authentic :lol: Alot of the accessories seems not correct (and jerry can usually attached to the rear, shovel in the front). But overall who cares really.

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:05 pm

Kubel Nick wrote: Steering wheel (what is that thing from) is wrong, front turn signal added, rear taillights wrong location, mudguards??, and camo bushes aren't authentic :lol: Alot of the accessories seems not correct (and jerry can usually attached to the rear, shovel in the front). But overall who cares really.

:D That's what I thought. It's not even close. :oops:

Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:10 am

[quote="kdfkid"]Hi,
i forgot to write the numbers : chassis is 00066 and bodynumber is 176
build 1940
The car in the VW museum is from 1944.
I will post pictures the next days.
Bye Christian[/quote]

It must be the oldest.. In restoring my own chassis number 01451, I have looked at Hermann Walters ch no 0012X, Schuckenbomers ch no 0073X and Dick Christensens 0094X. Up until now I have believed these to have been the oldest. Congratulations on yet another great find for the collection Christian!

Oystein, Norway

Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:35 am

Dear Oystein,

nice to hear that you also own a 1940. Great car for a nice guy. But you forgot the 1940 Kübelwagen of Hartmut Bernotat. Hartmut found this car in the GDR during the kommunistic time. He restaured the car with nearly 100% original parts - it is one of the best Kübelwagen I ever have seen in my life.

The car has got a chassis-number round about 600 - sorry, that I don't know it exactly.

Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:40 pm

Hi Guys,
today i got info that my Kübel was produced at the 15 of August 1940.
They started building the Kübel at Wolfsburg at the 3. of August.
Does someone know when Vw send the 2 Kübel for testing to Africa and if they returned after testing back to Germany
Bye Christian

Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:08 pm

Amazing how much rare stuff survived. I know a guy in Texas that got Herman's Bug. Great dove hunting vehicle.

Ralph

Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:03 am

Bjorn - please send me your email adress... To: "autokomp@hotmail.com"

Oystein