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Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:26 pm

Fattie wrote: "these forged spindles feature zero offset"

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13%2D22%2D2951

Its marketing to get you to spend money.

ALL spindles will add 3/8" of track width to each side. There is no way to design a type 1 spindles and not add at least 3/8" off material :wink:

Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:23 pm

Airkewld wrote: Its marketing to get you to spend money.
sounds like a false advertising lawsuit to me

Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:11 pm

Airkewld wrote: Fattie wrote: "these forged spindles feature zero offset"

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13%2D22%2D2951

Its marketing to get you to spend money.

ALL spindles will add 3/8" of track width to each side. There is no way to design a type 1 spindles and not add at least 3/8" off material :wink:

hey, welcome back, Pete!

btw: Thats total BS anyway, you can get spindles that only push out 1/4 a side, or if you are really lucky, find some old school cast ones with 0 offset.

Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:43 pm

blankmange wrote:
btw: Thats total BS anyway, you can get spindles that only push out 1/4 a side, or if you are really lucky, find some old school cast ones with 0 offset.

Picture or link or it doesn't exist.

Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:07 pm

Airkewld wrote: blankmange wrote:
btw: Thats total BS anyway, you can get spindles that only push out 1/4 a side, or if you are really lucky, find some old school cast ones with 0 offset.

Picture or link or it doesn't exist. http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=478

Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:28 pm

skewled :P

Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:00 pm

Not so fast fattie .... :shock:

CB Performance spindles

A little over 1/2". Factory has just over 1/8" there. I would take a picture, But I don't have any. Also for reference

CB Spindles again just over 3/8 of an inch added track.

Its marketing. If I say my spindles don't add track, you would buy them right. Or their spindles only add 1/4" of track width. No one, unless anal, is going to measure afterwards.

FatOWNed. J/k Fattie.

Notch, I appreciate you looking out. But anyone can put anything in print somewhere and until someone points it out or causes a big stink over it, it will stay and they will collect sales on it.

Edit- Its not about Talking BS - You guys should know the truth.

Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:03 pm

guess we got skewled

thanks :P

BTW: my offer still stands for the airbeam deal :roll:

Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:47 am

^ I love those $10 verniers! I keep about 5 of them around the lab, so one's always handy for non-critical measurements. And you don't care if you drop one and bust it. I'm clumsy and always afraid of busting my Mitutoyo.

Kewl that Pete's back. x2 on <0.25"-offset spindles not existing.

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Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:09 pm

Does anyone have pictures of thru rods and dom inserts so each side rides independant. I guess you have to drill a hole in the end of the spindles so a bolt is used to attach to the thru rods?? and what with the dom inserts??

Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:48 pm

I don't understand how they work, I see you can buy long rounded rods if you have a longer beam, and I see you can buy a kit if you have a shorten beam.

Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:01 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMxBolHOJR4

great vids for lowering the rear ;)

he also has some on lowering the front

Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:13 am

I would like to lower the front end of my ghia, using the 2 1/2 drop spindles, question here is, will my standard tire, which is a 75r/165 on standard rim still fit without touching anything?

Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:26 am

any help here. bought this 73 ghia almost 2 years ago, it sat for 21 years, runs well, but it sits crooked, leans to the left, could this be a stuck torsion bar, I don't know, the front end makes a loud knock when you are driving and turn the wheels, I was thinking maybe a torsion bar is stuck, what to do, all shocks are new, help on this one

also, can the steering box be adjusted to get rid of play, or do I need a new one, mark

Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:00 am

I saw a tech article from vwtrendsweb.com on how to narrow a beam and I was wondering if it would be possible to cut both the upper and the lower tube from the outside instead at the center (push the shock towers in 1 1/2 on both side)? I came up with this idea to avoid relocating the steering wheel lock stop, mounting brackets, steering bracket and retain its rigidity. By the way, I'm not going to install adjusters on it, i'll just cut/weld and the turn the retainer 1/4". Thanks in advance! :)

Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:46 pm

^^^ doesnt that mean your've just made six welds on the torsion housings instead of 4? seems like there would be another 50% chance of having it slightly off straight or am i wrong?

Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:46 pm

compositecrafters wrote: Does anyone have pictures of thru rods and dom inserts so each side rides independant. I guess you have to drill a hole in the end of the spindles so a bolt is used to attach to the thru rods?? and what with the dom inserts??

The caps pops out. It is just a grease cap.

They are for air ride.

Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:48 pm

mak65 wrote: I would like to lower the front end of my ghia, using the 2 1/2 drop spindles, question here is, will my standard tire, which is a 75r/165 on standard rim still fit without touching anything?

Do you have more than 2.5" of wheel gap between the fender and the top of the tire?

Are you able to extend the track of the wheel by 3/8" on each side or will you hit the fender?

If you have room, it will work, if you do not, you won't.

Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:54 pm

mak65 wrote: any help here. bought this 73 ghia almost 2 years ago, it sat for 21 years, runs well, but it sits crooked, leans to the left, could this be a stuck torsion bar, I don't know, the front end makes a loud knock when you are driving and turn the wheels, I was thinking maybe a torsion bar is stuck, what to do, all shocks are new, help on this one

also, can the steering box be adjusted to get rid of play, or do I need a new one, mark

Fill all the tires to 32 psi. Jack up each end of the car so that the wheel extend all the way. Measure the distance between the fender lip and the ground. Then roll it back and forth to allow the car to settle and measure again. Then compare. Let me know what you found. out.

Lift your front hood and look for an inspection cover on the driver side and you will see the above picture. Loosen the jam nut and tighten the screw but do not over tighten. That should help.

Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:56 pm

econo_bug wrote: I saw a tech article from vwtrendsweb.com on how to narrow a beam and I was wondering if it would be possible to cut both the upper and the lower tube from the outside instead at the center (push the shock towers in 1 1/2 on both side)? I came up with this idea to avoid relocating the steering wheel lock stop, mounting brackets, steering bracket and retain its rigidity. By the way, I'm not going to install adjusters on it, i'll just cut/weld and the turn the retainer 1/4". Thanks in advance! :)

It can work with an early car because the outer tubes are not stepped. The later ones are as seen here

it is easier to narrow in the center just to save that step.