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turboblue Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:12 pm

boozer89 wrote: I got a bugpack Poly Kit, and it doesn't match up to the 3 holes in my tranny for the front mount. Ive been searching for the right mounts but dont see anything that looks like it should fit. The bugpack mount has 2 holes in a angle, that will not line up with any of the 3 holes in my trannie.
As far as i know it should be from a 71 beetle. the motor and trannie were already seperated from the chassis when i bought it.


I don't think they make a 3 bolt urethane kit.
You can use a Bugpack # 5059-11 provided your torsion tranny mounting studs point straight back and not down.
You will be solid mounted in the front though........

Cucho Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:22 pm

HI I am from México and I am trying to make an old 3-rib transmission from a VW bus or as we call them here " COMBI " to run in the other side, I mean I want to put the engine in the middle of the car and the transmission in the back, somebody toldme that you do this by changing the " crowns " from one side to the oders and by this I think is changing the side pinions or gears where the cv joints are atached from one side to the other and this will do the trick. just like the " Formula Vee " cars. Does anybody knows how to do it ? Does anyboby has any pic about this ? Any diagrams for disassembly ?

turboblue Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:04 am

Cucho wrote: HI I am from México and I am trying to make an old 3-rib transmission from a VW bus or as we call them here " COMBI " to run in the other side, I mean I want to put the engine in the middle of the car and the transmission in the back, somebody toldme that you do this by changing the " crowns " from one side to the oders and by this I think is changing the side pinions or gears where the cv joints are atached from one side to the other and this will do the trick. just like the " Formula Vee " cars. Does anybody knows how to do it ? Does anyboby has any pic about this ? Any diagrams for disassembly ?

Cannot convert a bus transmission to mid engine that way.
That can only be done with sedan transmissions.
Formula Vee cars have sedan transmission, usually swing axle.

You can mount a bus transmission upside down to get that mid engine configuration.
It does take a some modification and your starter would be on the bottom.

boozer89 Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:12 pm

turboblue wrote: boozer89 wrote: I got a bugpack Poly Kit, and it doesn't match up to the 3 holes in my tranny for the front mount. Ive been searching for the right mounts but dont see anything that looks like it should fit. The bugpack mount has 2 holes in a angle, that will not line up with any of the 3 holes in my trannie.
As far as i know it should be from a 71 beetle. the motor and trannie were already seperated from the chassis when i bought it.


I don't think they make a 3 bolt urethane kit.
You can use a Bugpack # 5059-11 provided your torsion tranny mounting studs point straight back and not down.
You will be solid mounted in the front though........

Chirco has them as a new product.
http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/advanced_searc...710kek9r53

I guessing the previous owner picked up a '73+ transmission for this '71 Chassis, Maybe thats why it was seperated from the chassis when i got it. Im thinking about buying a rebuilt trans anyway, and ill probabbly just get the right one for the year.
Any pros or cons with the trans that i have now???

turboblue Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:56 am

boozer89 wrote: turboblue wrote: boozer89 wrote: I got a bugpack Poly Kit, and it doesn't match up to the 3 holes in my tranny for the front mount. Ive been searching for the right mounts but dont see anything that looks like it should fit. The bugpack mount has 2 holes in a angle, that will not line up with any of the 3 holes in my trannie.
As far as i know it should be from a 71 beetle. the motor and trannie were already seperated from the chassis when i bought it.


I don't think they make a 3 bolt urethane kit.
You can use a Bugpack # 5059-11 provided your torsion tranny mounting studs point straight back and not down.
You will be solid mounted in the front though........

Chirco has them as a new product.
http://www.chircoestore.com/catalog/advanced_searc...710kek9r53

I guessing the previous owner picked up a '73+ transmission for this '71 Chassis, Maybe thats why it was seperated from the chassis when i got it. Im thinking about buying a rebuilt trans anyway, and ill probabbly just get the right one for the year.
Any pros or cons with the trans that i have now???

Never seen that kit before, cool.

73 and later would normally be a single side cover (SSC) transmission.
Has a 3:88 ring and pinion with a 3:78 1st gear.
Stronger tranny than the older ones but geared taller.
AT would be the code for those and AH is the older version with the 4:125 ring and pinion and normally have dual side covers (DSC).
Here is where you find the ID code.


boozer89 Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:32 pm

Heres the #s i got,
AH19588 59
So whats that tell me??
Also, Were these set up for electronic Speedos? Is that what the 2 plugins are for on the tailstock, I dont really see anywhere a cable should go. The previous owner supplied a new cable. but im thinking he never tried the transmission.

runslikeapenguin Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:47 pm

boozer89 wrote: Heres the #s i got,
AH19588 59
So whats that tell me??
Also, Were these set up for electronic Speedos? Is that what the 2 plugins are for on the tailstock, I dont really see anywhere a cable should go. The previous owner supplied a new cable. but im thinking he never tried the transmission.

speedo cables run from the back of the speedo to the front left spindle, they go through the little hole on the back and out the dust cap where you need a small C clip to keep it in place.

those prongs on the back of your transmission are for the back up switch.

69 Baja Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:30 pm

So from what I read in here it wouldnt really be worth changing from a type 1 113 trans to an early 68 - 71 bus trans, because they pretty much have the same gears and internal parts except the ring & pinion. So the 72 and newer would be the way to go?

joescoolcustoms Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:26 am

boozer89 wrote: Heres the #s i got,
AH19588 59
So whats that tell me??
Also, Were these set up for electronic Speedos? Is that what the 2 plugins are for on the tailstock, I dont really see anywhere a cable should go. The previous owner supplied a new cable. but im thinking he never tried the transmission.

This trans has a 4.12 ring and pinion ratio. The AH indicates the 4.12. A AT is for 3.88 ratio and a AV is also a 4.12 ratio

Different Drummer Sat May 02, 2009 7:55 am

Sounds like my situation is similiar to the previous post.
I have a 1972 Type 1 street driven Baja. I will use it for gravel roads and occassional moderate trails. Nothing heavy duty or high speed.
I believe that the Transaxle is 1973 or later. Single side cover on drivers side with two circular concentric ribs on cover. Identification on passanger side is , AT 1 8 112. Someone prior to me must have changed the nose cone to a 1972 for mounting as I believe that they are different.
I would like to stay with this transaxle as I understand this is the strongest among type 1 transmissions. I would prefer to stay with type 1 and not modify to bus Trans.
Anyone know a reputable rebuilder on the east side of the country. Preferably North East.
Also I welcome any commennts in regards to the above described transmission.
Thank you,
DD

birddog1148 Sat May 16, 2009 10:00 am

can the diesel trans be converted to nose shift?

Mal evolent Sat May 16, 2009 7:55 pm

the switch on the left side of the trans, only one connection - neutral safety switch?


birddog1148 Thu May 28, 2009 4:32 am

If you were using the trans from an '83 vanogon, what nose cone would you use to swap it to nose shift?

turboblue Thu May 28, 2009 7:46 am

birddog1148 wrote: If you were using the trans from an '83 vanogon, what nose cone would you use to swap it to nose shift?

'76-79 091 6 rib.
You also need the intermediate housing and the shift rails.

bugginbabs78 Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:53 am

ok, the #s i got are
41
113 301 103
D

AO 551409

i did a search and cant seem to find my trans, please help! :oops:

runslikeapenguin Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:19 pm

bugginbabs78 wrote: ok, the #s i got are
41
113 301 103
D

AO 551409

i did a search and cant seem to find my trans, please help! :oops:

4.12 ring and pinnion

(not 100% sure on these though)

1st: 3.78
2nd: 2.06
3rd: 1.26
4th: .93

bugginbabs78 Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:05 pm

ok, so what year does that mean? i was told it is off a 69 bug, but then again the guy i got my car from also thought it had a 1300 when it has a 1600, i have the cluch off and it has a collar so i know its early.

i am just trying to figure out what exactly i have to work with

runslikeapenguin Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:05 pm

bugginbabs78 wrote: ok, so what year does that mean? i was told it is off a 69 bug, but then again the guy i got my car from also thought it had a 1300 when it has a 1600, i have the cluch off and it has a collar so i know its early.

i am just trying to figure out what exactly i have to work with

you dont need to worry about what year it is. just remember the code and remember its a Type 1 IRS, AO serial.

bugginbabs78 Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:34 am

swing. so does that mean i have the long or short axles?
and if it is irs how do i tell. cause i was again told that it is swing.

runslikeapenguin Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:26 am

bugginbabs78 wrote: swing. so does that mean i have the long or short axles?
and if it is irs how do i tell. cause i was again told that it is swing.

is it swing? sorry i just assumed your bug was a 69.

post up a picture of the axles and we can tell you if they are long or short.



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