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boblever Mon May 07, 2012 7:39 am

Hi Everyone,
I am in negotiations with a seller of a Vanagon that was once totalled. (per CarFax and per owner's admission). The van checks out quite nicely with a reputable mechanic.

Question: If I am looking to eventually sell this van again 3-5 years down the line, will I have enormous difficulty selling it b/c of this "stain" on the carfax/history? Or will buyers be able to look past this and see the quality of the van? In this market, how important is a clean carfax report?

Thanks,
Bob

jeffff Mon May 07, 2012 7:44 am

Hello Bob, welcome.

Great question but you posted in the wrong section (split bus)

The Vanagon forum is here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewforum.php?f=20

Clara Mon May 07, 2012 7:44 am

EverettB wrote: classicvwnut wrote: I'm not much for crying about bus prices, but this is over the top...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1291376
...and you don't even get the wheels :roll: ...there was a 61 23 window on here a couple days ago for less.


You want this Bus to have a title.
It was just sitting outside for years behind a shop so without a title, how do you know everything is on the up & up?

VIN

That VIN # is the 1963 model year.

I put VIN 1051005 into https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck/vincheck

and it is not listed in the insurance database records as being stolen or totaled. I think that is the list the port checked, found the Spokane bus there, and there's a big thread on that recovery.

cdennisg Mon May 07, 2012 8:10 am

Clara wrote: EverettB wrote: classicvwnut wrote: I'm not much for crying about bus prices, but this is over the top...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1291376
...and you don't even get the wheels :roll: ...there was a 61 23 window on here a couple days ago for less.


You want this Bus to have a title.
It was just sitting outside for years behind a shop so without a title, how do you know everything is on the up & up?

VIN

That VIN # is the 1963 model year.

I put VIN 1051005 into https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck/vincheck

and it is not listed in the insurance database records as being stolen or totaled. I think that is the list the port checked, found the Spokane bus there, and there's a big thread on that recovery.

I would love to know for a fact if this is true. I am trying to get our state's laws changed regarding vehicles without titles and would need to have that as a resource.

cdennisg Mon May 07, 2012 10:43 am

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302430

I know this isn't an official bus accessory, but the ad says it was found in a 67 bus, so here goes. This is worth exactly $25.00 I have had several. The last one I sold was absolutely perfect, and I sold it for $50.00. And they are not even close to rare.

EverettB Mon May 07, 2012 10:52 am

I don't know much about that those table but that one looks like trash.

Yes, I have seen near perfect used ones for $50-$75 at shows.

I think my brother got one NOS in box for $50 or so.

mannys66 Mon May 07, 2012 11:07 am

I've gotten upwards of $200 for some cherry ones, but I've also seen them go in real good shape for $50 and $75. It depends how badly the person buying it wants it, and how much the person selling thinks it's worth.
But I would agree this particular one is on the high side.

Dave24 Mon May 07, 2012 11:37 am

mannys66 wrote:
But I would agree this particular seller is high. FIFY :D

Dave24 Mon May 07, 2012 11:50 am

Playin' the Barrett-Jackson "it's worth this much"card. :lol:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1301712

type47fan1 Mon May 07, 2012 12:04 pm

Dave24 wrote: Playin' the Barrett-Jackson "it's worth this much"card. :lol:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1301712

At least he factored in the buyers fee. Always hate that add on when I buy!

Volksy,Beige70 Mon May 07, 2012 6:33 pm

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy......

slow36hp Mon May 07, 2012 6:37 pm

my favorite part

" .Please this is not a bus for someone has no @@@@s "

cdennisg Mon May 07, 2012 8:44 pm

Volksy,Beige70 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy......

In the last photo, the shot of the engine bay while the bus is on the hoist. IS that the shop ceiling I see? WTF is going on there?

Thomas Pedigo Mon May 07, 2012 8:55 pm

Volksy,Beige70 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy...... I'm sorry I actually read that ad...time to rest the eyes now. 8-[

busdaddy Mon May 07, 2012 9:20 pm

cdennisg wrote: Volksy,Beige70 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy......

In the last photo, the shot of the engine bay while the bus is on the hoist. IS that the shop ceiling I see? WTF is going on there?
I wonder if those are shots of a donor lower section/frame? in the other shots the lower 1/2 of the post beside the decklid is a different color and the heater tubes are insulated, don't bellypan buses have no wrap?

broozebrothers Mon May 07, 2012 9:26 pm

cdennisg wrote: Volksy,Beige70 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy......

In the last photo, the shot of the engine bay while the bus is on the hoist. IS that the shop ceiling I see? WTF is going on there? I noticed that too!...WTF ??

mannys66 Tue May 08, 2012 2:51 am

broozebrothers wrote: cdennisg wrote: Volksy,Beige70 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy......

In the last photo, the shot of the engine bay while the bus is on the hoist. IS that the shop ceiling I see? WTF is going on there? I noticed that too!...WTF ??
I think is just the lighting.

type241 Tue May 08, 2012 6:13 am

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=834377
I am guessing the 23 got a Hughseum type chassis transplant. :?

FRAME OFF RESTO.

npbusguy Tue May 08, 2012 6:21 am

busdaddy wrote: cdennisg wrote: Volksy,Beige70 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy......

In the last photo, the shot of the engine bay while the bus is on the hoist. IS that the shop ceiling I see? WTF is going on there?
I wonder if those are shots of a donor lower section/frame? in the other shots the lower 1/2 of the post beside the decklid is a different color and the heater tubes are insulated, don't bellypan buses have no wrap?

Belly pan buses have the heater wrap, but it needs to be installed before the belly pans go in place.

olliehank47 Tue May 08, 2012 7:17 am

mannys66 wrote: broozebrothers wrote: cdennisg wrote: Volksy,Beige70 wrote: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1302337

Seems fishy......

In the last photo, the shot of the engine bay while the bus is on the hoist. IS that the shop ceiling I see? WTF is going on there? I noticed that too!...WTF ??
I think is just the lighting.

Actually, I think it is the ceiling. If you look closely at the picture of the rear interior, you can see the seam welding along the sheet metal. Looks like the rear metal over the engine/gas tank has been grafted in and the picture from underneath was taken before the new metal was installed.



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