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Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:00 pm

Someone needs to take this car out of the snow. :D

http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Typ-82-KDF-Wehrmachtskuebelw...dZViewItem

Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:37 am

To me, it's gorgeous. Of course, I'm no KDF Guru so I wouldn't be able to tell if there's something up with it.

Couple Q's though. Did they not have hubcaps? I mean, makes sense but I thought KDF era cars had hubcaps with the VW in the cog w/the arms coming off of it emblem.

And the other thing, whats the thing in the pic, apparently on the back of the car, with the two dark red lenses?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:57 am

Nid wrote: ... Did they not have hubcaps? I mean, makes sense but I thought KDF era cars had hubcaps with the VW in the cog w/the arms coming off of it emblem.

And the other thing, whats the thing in the pic, apparently on the back of the car, with the two dark red lenses?

No, they were a military vehicle and had no hubcaps. The housing on the back is the tail/brake light.

Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:49 am

that's probably a blackout light (for air raids so lights can't be seen from above) though never seen that style before. Pict beblow (the light on the left) is the correct blackout lights used

Not sure what that canister on the spare tire is neither. Not sure if the sempahores are supped to be posted directly on the windshield itself, seen them on it's own arms so they'd still function upright even the the glass is down. Though one of those I just pointed out wouldn't matter to me. It's a hell better shape and more complete then my Kubel.

On a side note: I have an extra full sized WW2 German shovel if anyone's looking to buy one.

edit: just checked my other picts, seems like most sempahores are psoted directly on the windshield while some are on it's seperate arms, though most don't have semaphores.

Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:06 am

28,532.58 USD "Buy it Now" price ... hmmmmmm

Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:15 am

Nid wrote: Couple Q's though. Did they not have hubcaps? I mean, makes sense but I thought KDF era cars had hubcaps with the VW in the cog w/the arms coming off of it emblem.

And the other thing, whats the thing in the pic, apparently on the back of the car, with the two dark red lenses?[/color]

It should have nipple hubcaps, like the one mounted on the spare tire.

Nick, the cannister on the spare tire is a tool roll that is super cool, but I don't think it was standard issue. There is one on german ebay this week: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&...T&rd=1

I don't think the light is original Kubel. I can't find any pictures of another one with that style brakelight. But rear brake lights are a real reat's nest because thy stopped being standard in 1942 but they kept adding whatever they seemed to have available in the field.

I don't know much about Kubels, but that one puzzles me because he says it is a 1944, but it is missing the hole for the jack on the side that they added in 1942, it still has the semaphores on the windshield frame instead of on seperate mounts, again, a 1942 change (before they were eliminated altogether in 43), and it has the early dash which was changed in 1943. It also has the spotlight mounted on the right front quarterpanel and they dropped that in 1942. So that makes a person think it is more like a 41 or early 42, but it also has the single wiper and late style rear fenders.

He is rather spartan with the photographs too. I wish he would give us a few more pics of little details like the engine compartment. He is also rather quiet about the running gear and pan.

It would be interesting to know just how much of that car is original.

Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:23 am

Kubel Nick wrote:
Not sure what that canister on the spare tire is neither.

Hi Kubel Nick,
It would have contained the German WWII gas mask.

Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:56 am

I always thought this was the modification to have if you own a Kubelwagen:

Take off your wheel, slip on the big steel disc, and then re-mount your tire backwards and your Kubel is ready to roll down the tracks. Cheap, simple, effective.

Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:14 pm

I like that railroad option. I prefer these though :lol:

fake tank setup to scare soldiers from far away

half-track option :twisted: How fun this would be in the snow

more storage space

Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:48 pm

Kubel Nick wrote: I like that railroad option. I prefer these though :lol:

fake tank setup to scare soldiers from far away

Sure, loads of laughs. Until you get the attention of a real tank. Then your little broomstick gun might not seem quite so funny.

Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:13 pm

:D A wash tub and broomstick........yeah that looks just like a Tiger II.

Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:39 pm

you know you're losing the war when you get sent out in that.

"no sorry, we're outta tanks, with these handy attachments on that kubelwagen, you'll look like the whole damn third panzer division"

Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:59 am

UZI wrote: you know you're losing the war when you get sent out in that.

"no sorry, we're outta tanks, with these handy attachments on that kubelwagen, you'll look like the whole damn third panzer division"

I suspect that the Wylie E. Coyote factor was very high towards the end of the war.

Acme Products GmbH was kept very busy devising things like kubel-tanks.

Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:40 am

Fake tanks, cutouts, dolls/statues has been used in wars for a long time to scare away others. Though probably not as much anymore with rifle scopes seeing for miles able to see if they're fake or not. But still even today fake cop cars and cutouts has been used in highways as a deterent. Still would be cool to have the tank outfit Kubel, cheaper maintainance then a Ferret though Ferrets are cooler to drive through downtown scaring passerbys. One day if I have spare time and extra metal maybe I'd like to make a tank top to put on my Kubel.

Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:00 pm

Fake tanks, cutouts, dolls/statues has been used in wars for a long time to scare away others. Though probably not as much anymore with rifle scopes seeing for miles able to see if they're fake or not.

hey guys They are still doing it today. My brother use to work in DC for the army developing such stuff. Had a cardboard tank that looked real from 50 feet , even had a honda generator inside to produce heat. had a 50 gal. drum that was a blow up balloon . Bunch of them together looked like a fuel depot. He also developed a cover for tanks and airplanes from the dryer sheets made by bounce . later mark Dearing

Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:38 pm

vwbrain wrote: Had a cardboard tank that looked real from 50 feet , even had a honda generator inside to produce heat

Anyone else remember the ads in the back of the old comic books for real live chamelons and baby spider monkies and stuff? When I was a kid there was one in every comic book of a "Official Battle Tank" with "Real Gun that Actually Shoots!" and there was this picture of a kid pretty much invading France in the damn thing.

I could never afford one cause they were like $9, but man, I wanted one of those tanks. Anyway, one day I hear that a neighbor kid got one so I raced over to his house to take a look. Well, all it was was a dumb cardboard box with a tank printed on the outside and the gun was about a 3 foot cardboard toilet paper roll with a rubber band gizmo.Even the treads and stuff were just printed on the side of this box.

He looked like a total goofus sitting in this retarded cardboard box and he knew it. I was never so happy in my life it was him instead of me.

Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:47 pm

here is a 52 split

http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Brezel-Kaefer-Bj-52-Rheumakl...dZViewItem

Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:53 pm

coad wrote: vwbrain wrote: Had a cardboard tank that looked real from 50 feet , even had a honda generator inside to produce heat

Anyone else remember the ads in the back of the old comic books for real live chamelons and baby spider monkies and stuff? When I was a kid there was one in every comic book of a "Official Battle Tank" with "Real Gun that Actually Shoots!" and there was this picture of a kid pretty much invading France in the damn thing.

I could never afford one cause they were like $9, but man, I wanted one of those tanks. Anyway, one day I hear that a neighbor kid got one so I raced over to his house to take a look. Well, all it was was a dumb cardboard box with a tank printed on the outside and the gun was about a 3 foot cardboard toilet paper roll with a rubber band gizmo.Even the treads and stuff were just printed on the side of this box.

He looked like a total goofus sitting in this retarded cardboard box and he knew it. I was never so happy in my life it was him instead of me.

:lol: I feel exactly the same way when I see somebody buy a Brezelwerks repro. :wink:

Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:25 pm

Well Bob, yet another brilliant statement given anything I produce would be as good as or even better than anything in or on your oval, its just really embarrassing to read your irrelevant dribble.

Gary

Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:02 pm

UZI wrote: you know you're losing the war when you get sent out in that.

"no sorry, we're outta tanks, with these handy attachments on that kubelwagen, you'll look like the whole damn third panzer division"

the germans weren't alone when it came to creating phantom armies. Jasper Maskelyne did some interesting things for the allied side.