TheSamba.com :: View topic - Fastback Pop-out window seals

Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:35 am

Can someone post some pics of these flexglass frames on a car? I posted about Peter's Fasty on the calender thread, now I want to see how they work. Just curious...

Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:00 pm

Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:22 pm

KTPhil wrote: Maybe he is confusing the slight incompatibility with late windshields, not pop-outs?

I don't know for sure, but I've nvever heard of any difference in fasty popouts for ANY year.

Squares are another matter, with late models lacking the pillar hinge tabs.

Theres a slight incompatabilty with late windshields? At what year? I know that when you take one out on a later car, there's some extra metal grips that keep the windshield in better.. On something like a 68, you could just pop out the whole windshield with gasket by pushing it out with your feet.. If you try that on a later car, the glass will always break

Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:10 am

Wally_Crane wrote: Theres a slight incompatabilty with late windshields? At what year? I know that when you take one out on a later car, there's some extra metal grips that keep the windshield in better.. On something like a 68, you could just pop out the whole windshield with gasket by pushing it out with your feet.. If you try that on a later car, the glass will always break

Bingo.

Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:11 am

KTPhil wrote: Wally_Crane wrote: Theres a slight incompatabilty with late windshields? At what year? I know that when you take one out on a later car, there's some extra metal grips that keep the windshield in better.. On something like a 68, you could just pop out the whole windshield with gasket by pushing it out with your feet.. If you try that on a later car, the glass will always break

Bingo.

Ah.. oh well, I wouldn't even qualify that as a slight incompatibility.. Just that the later cars have the sharp metal grippy things, and the earlier ones don't.. As far as I know, the glass and the gasket are completely compatible.

And if I were replacing a windshield on a later car, I'd probably leave the metal grippy things out.

Back in the 80's when my dad and I were parting cars left and right. At the junkyard we normally took cars to, they happened to be grabbing a squareback with a big claw (and the car was pretty intact.. Normally we picked our clean). The force from the claw on the roof just popped out the windshield complete, intact with gasket. It goes without saying that we grabbed and saved it .

Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:51 pm

Okay, with 6 pages of this topic in the forum I didn't read every reply, but wanted to share what I do, so sorry if this is a a repost.
Using masking tape, mask around the edge of the windows where they would seal on the body. Then mask the windows inside the seals. Get some black silicon glue/sealent and apply a thick bead all the way around on top of the original rubber seal. Then take either a piece of heavy cardboard or a putty knife and spread the silicon evenly on top of the original rubber and feather the edges along the masking tape. Be steady and take your time.
Allow the silicon to setup - BUT NOT completely dry, then carfully remove the masking tape.
It's not as cool as new rubber, but it does do the trick, and it's a lot less expensive than buying and replacing new rubber seals - if and when you can find them.
DC

Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:54 pm

This is for the regular windows, not popouts, right? Thoswe seals ar available new, and this won't work with popouts. My popout seals have shrunk, and pumping black goo onto the hole would likely not seal for long. Also, it doesn't seal where the glass pushes at the rear, so it would still leak.

I used to do this for door seals when the flap brole off, but it just doesn't work well with glass, epecially popouts.

C'mon, Anthony, let's see those new ones! We are desperate! ;-)

Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:01 pm

KTPhil,
It might not be a cure-all, long term, but it's worked on my pop outs for almost two years so far with no leaks. Maybe I just just lucky???
It's worked great on the front window too.
DC

Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:37 pm

ok here are some sample photos to keep everyone in the know...

the pop out seal is really intricate, with 3 different extrusion profiles, to correctly grab the frame, glass, trim and fit into the car,

the photos are of the pieces unattached to each other, but overall will makeup a single fastback pop out seal

we should have these complete and for sale shortly, enjoy!

Anthony / ISP WEST

frame channel in seal

3 extrusions lined up

I posted more photos then linked in the gallery

Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:43 pm

Cool! I was beginning to worry the project was falling apart or delayed further. Please let us know when and how much when you have that figured out.

Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:46 pm

Anthny,
How many sets will be available with the first run? Are you taking orders or deposits?

Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:50 pm

no preorder or deposit necessary, pricing will be determined after the final production run is made, also with new windshield seals that do not spider crack

Anthony / ISP WEST

Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:25 pm

Do you know how many the production run will produce?

Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:04 pm

PIMPPRIDE wrote: ...new windshield seals that do not spider crack

A problem I assume.

Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:48 pm

im deffinatly up for atleast one set
if not too

Altho i think first production should be limited to Per Car
i dont want to miss out because some one wants extras to sit on there shelves

OOOooo cant wait

any Idea of time from this point

Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:16 pm

ok finished samples were installed today and approved, here are more glamour shots... TODAY its a historical day for fastback owners :roll: :P :lol:

Anthony / ISP WEST

Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:37 pm

Any Idea of what the aprox. cost? What quality is the rubber? I have bought rubber gaskets from ISP that cracked within months. Since this is obviously a steep investment the rubber needs to stand up well.

Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:46 pm

=P~ =P~ =P~
Hope they arent Too Much
a set of stationary are , what about 50$ or so

Hope They Arent TOO Expensive
but Who Cares

The Ability to go form a NLA part
to an A part
is a god send

AND is there an idea of making them With Out the chrome trim???

for those of us who have Cali front and rear seals

Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:49 pm

sharkskinman wrote: =P~ =P~ =P~
Hope they arent Too Much
a set of stationary are , what about 50$ or so

Hope They Arent TOO Expensive
but Who Cares

The Ability to go form a NLA part
to an A part
is a god send

AND is there an idea of making them With Out the chrome trim???

for those of us who have Cali front and rear seals

:lol:

Considering they will only sell 5 of them, they should cost $397 each to cover their time, effort, money involved :wink:

Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:03 pm

notchboy wrote: sharkskinman wrote: =P~ =P~ =P~
Hope they arent Too Much
a set of stationary are , what about 50$ or so

Hope They Arent TOO Expensive
but Who Cares

The Ability to go form a NLA part
to an A part
is a god send

AND is there an idea of making them With Out the chrome trim???

for those of us who have Cali front and rear seals

:lol:

Considering they will only sell 5 of them, they should cost $397 each to cover their time, effort, money involved :wink:
Ok pal only 5 sets? you wish HA HA how the hell are you Jason? Shark callook rubber would be what I want since I hate chrome window trim on my car. But just the chance to get replacement pop out rubber is a step in the right direction I am sure most of us FASTBACK PEOPLE would agree.