TheSamba.com :: View topic - This is a Beetle and that is a Super Beetle

Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:06 am

Scott H wrote: hotfries75 wrote: i always identify a super by the vents behind the back window, that is the easiest when its parked or u see it drive by. also the supers have bigger rear lights that have a big yellow part on them.
In my opinion, blatantly wrong posts like the one I've quoted above need to be deleted from threads like this sticky that are here to educate.
hotfries75's post will only confuse someone that reads it.

Not to add to this thread (but I guess I am anyway :wink: )...but everything after the first post could be deleted.

But I guess everyone has fun poking sticks at Glenn???? :lol:

Actually, I ran into a guy here in town that thought his own Bug was a Super because of the vents behind his windows. It was definitely a Standard.

Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:26 pm

are supers harder to lower?

Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:13 pm

jimbikemedic wrote: are supers harder to lower?
No, but you can't get as low in the front as a standard Beetle.
In the US, the rear is exactly the same whether Super or standard.
For the front, read this: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143097

Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:28 pm

Lbhat wrote: :?: so...? I could find a 71 or 72 flat windshield Super with the spare laying flat? with struts too?

I have one of those exactly (72 Super)

Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:19 pm

Scott H wrote: hotfries75 wrote: i always identify a super by the vents behind the back window, that is the easiest when its parked or u see it drive by. also the supers have bigger rear lights that have a big yellow part on them.
In my opinion, blatantly wrong posts like the one I've quoted above need to be deleted from threads like this sticky that are here to educate.
hotfries75's post will only confuse someone that reads it.

Then you should delete this erroneous statement:

Scott H wrote:
.... the rear is exactly the same whether Super or standard.

Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:28 pm

Quote:
the rear is exactly the same whether Super or standard.

Have a look at these two cars:

One of them is a Super, the other is not.

Who can tell the difference?
No guessing here, you have to state how you know. If you are the owner or know the owner of either car, you are disqualified from this question.

Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:01 pm

I'd say the green one is the Super because of the bumper impact strip.

Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:13 pm

All USA/Canada spec 74 and later Beetles and Supers had the rubber impact strip and the plastic end caps. See Glenn's red 74. The owner of the orange car above has removed these parts.
That is NOT the difference.

Here's Glenn's 74 standard Beetle:

Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:22 pm

The only other difference I see is the trim around the rear window on the green one.

Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:30 pm

That's not what sets them apart. The rubber could have been changed over the years.

Don't bother checking the colour charts. That isn't it either. Both of those colours were available on both models.

Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:35 pm

The orange one looks wider... I would say that one is the Super as it looks "fatter" and "beefier" than the green one. Look at the vents under the rear window... and look at the distance from the vent on each side to the edge of the car. A definite difference in distance.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:49 am

Oh, I see it now. The orange one and Glenn's have the same exhaust. :wink:

Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:36 am

The top orange one is a super, the bottom green one is a "standard"

Notice below the liscense plate on the orange one, the simplistic edge; the green one has what looks to be more sopisciated stamping. It does look a little narrower as well, but this may be from parallax as the photos are taken at different angles.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:19 pm

delliott101 wrote: The orange one looks wider... I would say that one is the Super as it looks "fatter" and "beefier" than the green one. Look at the vents under the rear window... and look at the distance from the vent on each side to the edge of the car. A definite difference in distance.
Wider because I was standing closer to the orange one.
The difference is not so subtle. Once you know it, it's actually quite obvious. You are, however, very close.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:21 pm

jbrandt01 wrote: The top orange one is a super, the bottom green one is a "standard"

Notice below the liscense plate on the orange one, the simplistic edge; the green one has what looks to be more sopisciated stamping. It does look a little narrower as well, but this may be from parallax as the photos are taken at different angles.
Sorry, I can't see what you are??

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:26 pm

Here are some more cars:

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:27 pm

Come on, Bruce... stopp stringing us along ;-)

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:32 pm

Can't you tell, I'm having a lot of fun with this one. :D

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:17 pm

There is no functional difference whatsoever between stock supers and standards at the rear. Any difference in these photos is due to addition of aftermarket parts or is a phantom difference due to slightly different views from which the photos are taken, and shadows.

If you're trying to point out the chrome strip around the window, well, there you go.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:19 pm

Supers had locking decklids and standards did not.