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Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:46 pm

mnussbau wrote: There is no functional difference whatsoever between stock supers and standards at the rear.
Oh yes there is.

Here's a hint for you. The difference cannot be unbolted and changed.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:47 pm

Glenn wrote: Supers had locking decklids and standards did not.
Probably true, but not the major difference I'm looking for.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:48 pm

Bruce wrote: mnussbau wrote: There is no functional difference whatsoever between stock supers and standards at the rear.
Oh yes there is.

Here's a hint for you. The difference cannot be unbolted and changed.
That leaves only the apron.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:52 pm

What about the roof?

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:54 pm

You're enjoying this WAAAY too much... :lol:

Why would the roof be any different at the rear?

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:55 pm

Bruce wrote: What about the roof?
What about it?

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:56 pm

Oh ya! :D
Why? I've been asking that myself for the last year since I noticed this.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:59 pm

I checked the micro fiche and they do have different part numbers. But that's because the cowl at the front window is part of the roof.

OK... spill it.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:01 pm

Yer gettin' close, Glenn. Think about the extent of the roof pressing.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:03 pm

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:05 pm

It's at the rear. Your line drawing won't show it. Refer back to the photos.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:06 pm

The rain gutter is longer?

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:12 pm

mnussbau wrote: The rain gutter is longer?
Might be, but that is not as blatently obvious as the difference I am looking for.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:19 pm

One has more cooling slots under the window!! Standard beetle: 50. Super: 42. HOLY CRAP!

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:21 pm

GIVE THAT MAN A CIGAR!!!

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:23 pm

The next question is, why?

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:27 pm

Doesn't make sense.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:30 pm

I don't smoke, so just throw money! :twisted:

I'd guess there must be a quality or cost reason. There being a new roof stamping to design, VW took the opportunity to put in fewer slots...it was either easier/cheaper to make the new dies or they decided there would be fewer production problems. Another possibility is the total area open to the air is a bit more on the super.

edit: It's got to be the total open area...fewer slots=fewer vertical members. If the width of the verticals is the same between standards and supers you get more open area in the same space.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:33 pm

Now is that true for a 1303 and 1303? Or does the 1302 also have 50 slots?

Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:38 pm

Bruce wrote: GIVE THAT MAN A CIGAR!!!
Now explain what that has to do with lowering the rear.