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Wed Jul 23, 2003 2:54 pm

I had my Thing painted just recently..sort of..it took two months. Here's my beef..the guy who painted it painted wanted do the doors, fenders and hood separate from the body.. he paints the doors and stuff...I take the door and stuff home..he paints the body three weeks later... I pay him and I get it home and start to but it back together..I install the fenders , doors and stuff..OMG! the doors and stuff do not match the body in color..they are off big time the doors are more yellow/yellow and the body is yellow/orangeish..I gave the dude the color code (Dodge Race Viper Yellow and #) how could the paint be off this much? I talked to him and he says bring it back...we will paint it agian this time with the doors and fenders on. I gave him the same paint code again.OK..so he paints it three weeks later..I get it home (it was dark when I picked it up) the next day I see it looks like school bus yellow it's darker that what was there before...and a very bad paint job too..the inside of the Thing is painted so bad that some area's didn't see any new paint other's over spray and you can see the two differant paints colors + paint runs everywhere. I am thinking of taking him to court. Does the paint vary that much in color if you have the same paint code everytime.. the color it is now is nothing like the first or second color he used on the doors/body..is this his fault or the guy how mixed the paint. and no I am not going to take it back to him..

Wed Jul 23, 2003 11:59 pm

Just happened to me, so I resprayed the vehicle fully assembled. I knew the risks, but still played the game. Some of us are set in our ways, although I am only 27!
I would either request he redo the car assembled to save his-REPUTATION?? or just save up a bit of cash and have a good shop do the respray. Since everything is smooth you ought to be able to wetsand it and scuff the tight spots and have the Thing reshot for -hopefully- around $500.

Air pressure is vital. If you spray with a different pressure one day, or say some parts flat while others hanging, you may end up with what happened to you! I know, cuz that's what I did wrong.

Thu Jul 24, 2003 1:34 pm

This doesn't sound right. With solid colors and correctly mixed paint and matching color primer, the car can be painted apart as long as the paint is all mixed, reduced and catalyzed in a single batch.

Any professional painters want to weigh in on this?

Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:58 pm

Well Major woody has it right. It sounds like he mixed enough color to paint the parts the first time then mixed enough to spray the whole car three weeks later.
The overspray on the inner door jambs etc can be blended to match as long he the painter knows how to tint the paint. With different lots of toners you will have that problem. One thing is almost certain that regardless of the color codes it is pretty much impossible to get the same amount of toner in the mix each time. That is what gives you the yellowish or orangeish colors. If the paint requires 3mg of yellow or another toner and you drip 3.5 or more or less the paint will tint differently.
Tell the painter to paint the jambs and match the color as it should be not dry blended in the jambs.
On another note you may be able to spray some blending agent on the jambs and get them to blend together (doubtful) but it may work.

Thu Jul 24, 2003 6:37 pm

OK, OK, so I am a professional painter, and yes I did what I said... But it was all metallic basecoats... I bet money the guy that painted the Thing just kept buying as little paint as possible. Every time he had more mixed he just crossed his fingers.

Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:39 pm

rshort2k...that sounds like what he did...I went over to his place and talked to him..he said that paint will vary in shades no matter how good you match it..he blames the guy who mixed the paint. He told me that he would repaint it if I buy the paint and do all prep work. he said it will take two gallons of paint to paint the inside and out..I asked the the guy over at maco he said it shouldn't take more than a gallon of paint...I am so getting tired this painting crap!!!

Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:44 pm

His offer sounds like the starting point of a negotiation. If he knew that this could occur, he took the risk that the job would turn out unacceptably. And I assume he picked the paint supplier which makes it his problem to rectify. And that still doesn't explain the runs.

Depends on how hard you think he will fight you if you really dig in. I would consider going over there and helping him prep it AGAIN but the materials error was his to absorb. He doesn't deserve to earn a profit on this job, and I wouldn't give it to him. He's also built up quite a paint film on your car...you've got to get the repaint done right this time.

Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:22 pm

What type of paint did he use? Two gallons of Acrylic enamel will paint two bugs and leave enough for more fenders... This paint guy ought to go back to Tech school!

Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:19 pm

Figure most paint brands will mix 1 gallon to Ready to spray of about 1 and half gallons to two. I would not bother doing any work with this guy, make him redo the car again and or make him refund your material cost less half for primer and sealer you won't really need again. Take it to someone else and have them shoot the car all at once.

You go to tech school rshort2k?