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1966_Navybug Wed Jul 30, 2003 7:53 pm

Here's one you may have seen before...I've never painted before(cars at least). So to make a long story short...about how much paint would I need to paint an entire bug (1966) inside and out?

Chris

keifernet Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:22 pm

Depends on the product, and the gun...

Acrylic Enamel is what I like, 1 gal paint, usually mixes with 3 quarts of reducer and 1 pint of Urethane Hardner (opitonal but highly recommended) makes nearly 2 gallons of mixed product... I paint very wet and it comes out about right for totally disassembled Bug, painting under all hood areas door jabs and the works... with a little to spare, about a pint... ( do not add the reducer or hardner and put the remains in as small a container as you can to keep air out and save for touch ups)

Now the Base /Clear guys can tell you how much they use.

Evoracer Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:56 pm

Keifernet,

What type of AE do you prefer? I have most trying to steer me towards Acrylic Urethane, both single and two stage. There is some nasty stuff made into most urethanes that I would like to avoid.

keifernet Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:34 am

I like PPG "Delstar" or Dupont Centauri, even Sherwin Williams used to be decent... but I have not shot it for years.

Delstar has gotten pretty pricey over the years and for economy I have used PPG's lower grade "Omni" a few times recently and it's not too bad, may not
" hold out " as long but will still last a few years or more if sprayed right. and taken care of. But if it fits the car/ budget then I get the top line materials.

Yes Urethanes have duarability etc. but like you say, nasty stuff in the fume/hazard dept. best if used with professional breathing apparatus.
even home / garage /do it yourself with the AE system should get the best respirator and cartridges $ can buy IMO....

1966_Navybug Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:57 pm

right on. thank you very much for the info. I think I'm going to go out to the local PPG place next week, and see what they have. Thanks again


Chris

bljones Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:08 pm

I still swear by farm implement paint. damn few colour choices, but it's cheap, durable, and easy to spray. besides, allis-chalmers orange looks great with john deere green scallops.

VintageVulture Sat Aug 02, 2003 8:14 pm

If you're going base-clear I suggest a quart of epoxy or urethane primer sealer before (dependent upon your color choice of course) around 4 quarts sprayable basecoat followed 20 minutes later by around 3 quarts sprayable clear. Each brand and color varies sometimes tremendously, so ask the paint seller the same questions! If you get tintable or colored primer-sealer that is in the ballpark in regards to a match to your base you cut costs (less paint for complete coverage). Clear is clear and two coats is fine unless you count on cutting and buffing A LOT... Three coats may take another pint or two. If you have a good surface to paint over, DuPont 222S adhesion promoter will take the place of the primer sealer- saving even more money and the chance of sticking even more dust. A pint of 222S is enough but I doubt it is for sale in less than a quart. I recommend DuPont or PPG bases and sealers, as they seem quite affordable- I like PPG Delstar (acrylic enamel) better than DuPont, and Please- if you're painting for the first time- NO ACRYLIC URETHANE SINGLE STAGE! I am a pro, and well, it still kicks my butt from time to time!

keifernet Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:05 pm

Thanks, for the low down on the B/C stuff...I was hoping someone would come along and fill us in, As I said I am primarily an AE user but will be doing some B/C work on a few future projects.



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