TheSamba.com :: View topic - I know it ain't "right", but pics of 16" fuch

Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:03 am

nice!!! btw in the past year my front end wore in perfect took 100 miles or so i think...those 16x7 all around are NICE any rubbing?

Scott

Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:39 pm

Speedy wrote: RA 70 wrote: Ill see if i can get some pics of how far the the axle sticks out, but I would say about 1/4 inch, wont be able to get to till this weekend I think... I already know I will have to smaller tires on it and looks as though it will barely clear doing that.

Also are lug bolts ok to mount the 911 fuchs? Or is press in studs the way to go, and if so what is the proper length studs to use?

Always use studs, they are safer. The length of the studs depend on the wheel & nut combo, the shoulder length depends on the drum. You don't want the splines protruding beyond the drum or hub into the wheel. And if the nut is a "closed end" style (not open) you need to make sure it does not bottom out on the stud and that it seats correctly on the wheel tightly.

Thank you for the info. Is it the type of wheels that make the studs safer than using lug bolts? Just curious since many german cars in recent years still use lug bolts over studs. Also if lug bolts are used what is the proper type to use?

Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:37 am

Speedy wrote:

16's x 6 on front and 7 on rear. 4" narrowed beam, CB drop spindles, ghia disks, 68 drums w/porsche pattern, and short axles.

damn that looks sweet as hell! I love crank back 64 sunroofs.

Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:33 pm

Skim wrote: damn that looks sweet as hell! I love crank back 64 sunroofs.

Thanks Mr.T, I pitty the foo!!!

RA 70 wrote: Thank you for the info. Is it the type of wheels that make the studs safer than using lug bolts? Just curious since many german cars in recent years still use lug bolts over studs. Also if lug bolts are used what is the proper type to use?

The type of wheel does not matter, a stud is stronger most of the time and has to do with the actual stretching load on the application. Most german cars that have lug bolts also have hub-centric wheels from factory making them easier to install and for a better design. You can use lug bolts from any car with a 14MM thread and ball seat to match the wheel. I don't have any pics of those but most porsches have them although they are usually longer than needed, cut at your own risk!

Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:59 pm

Finally got them mounted!!

1970 Beetle - Front 16x6 Fuchs on 205R55's, 2" narrowed adjustable beam, 2.5" CB Dropped Spindles, with disc brake kit in the front. Rear lowered 1 outer spline, 16x7 Fuchs on 225R50's. I had to shave the rear axle to the castle nut in order to get the caps on, and the adjustable beam is all the way up due to the right front tires rubbing when a second person was sitting in the front. In the future slightly narrower tires for the front, and lower it a little in the front. And of course a paint job :)

Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:15 pm

I really don't understand why these things are so "uncool" to have. I think they look perfect on bugs, and they look 100x better on busses than earlies IMO. They just fill out the proportions much better.

If it all came down to it I'd run some 16" fuchs on my bug first choice. Good lookin rides guys!

Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:34 pm

Are they "uncool?" They look fantastic to me! In fact, forgive me if I missed it earlier in the thread, but where can you find these 16-inchers, preferably fully polished or chromed? Is there just one, or multiple, manufacturers, and what is the offset?

Again they look FANTASTIC!

Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:54 pm

I was making an assumption the 16" Fuchs are reproductions, but now I see they are stock Porsche wheels.

I'm learning... :wink:

Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:01 pm

:twisted:

Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:51 pm

So much polishing!!!!!!

:roll:

Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:29 pm

wow...16" fuchs look much better then 15's
they sleeker, more aggressive, and the design of the rim looks less cramped....great cars btw 8)

Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:52 pm

bubba wrote:
:twisted:

:shock: more pictures! I'm a real sucker for bare metal.

Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:26 pm

LeviMan2001 wrote: bubba wrote:
:twisted:

:shock: more pictures! I'm a real sucker for bare metal.

Bare metal!? Nugga isnt even trippin' over a solid ass Barndoor truck.
:?

Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:17 am

ronbdavis wrote: Are they "uncool?" They look fantastic to me! In fact, forgive me if I missed it earlier in the thread, but where can you find these 16-inchers, preferably fully polished or chromed? Is there just one, or multiple, manufacturers, and what is the offset?

Again they look FANTASTIC!

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=806386
Alex Magro is awesome. I picked up a set of 16x6 and 16x7. He worked on shipping with me and detailed my caps for $55. I went with the old look exactly like the ones he advertised w/ the gloss black recesses. It should be much cheaper shipping for you being in VA since hes FL.- Jon

Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:48 pm

Just got back from working on the car, mounted the fuchs using adapters for now, trying to figure out how it will work!

Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:06 pm

The question that remains is can you put the 16x6's up front over 944T calipers.

Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:04 pm

DORIGTT wrote: The question that remains is can you put the 16x6's up front over 944T calipers.

From what i understand they don't fit unless u space the wheel further out. I had a set of 87 944 hubs modified to accept vw bearings, but never tried them with the fuchs and turbo calipers. These hubs also have the rotor mounted over them instead of on the inside like the earlier ones, which help push out the wheel about another quarter inch.

Supposedly the 7" will fit over them without any problems.

Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:23 am

my gosh that bug is sick

Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:19 am

Im glad to finally have my bug set up and am now able to post what im running. What i have is a 63 sedan. Starting it off is an RLR 1 inch trans lift kit, 16x7 fuchs on the rear with 215/65 Sumitomo HTRs on the back ( this size was perfect for my rear set up and stance desired ), 16x6 fuchs on 205/45's Sumitomo HTRs on the front. The rims were from Alex Magro in Florida. Front beam is a 4 inch shortened beam done by Bryan @ Latenightaircooled, stock front sway bar, and a 3/4 rear sway bar. All around are CB disk brakes ( a must) , CB 2.5inch drop spindles, and Koni special "D" rear shocks. As you can see the car is in the process of restoration. Pushing it is a 2276 sporting 44x37 wedgeports with an Engle K8 cam and 48ida's 9.3 cr engine ( self built). Im running a full flow set up with external oil filter, stock doghouse oil cooler and also a 96pass mesa electric fan cooled oil cooler. The trans is from Ken at Buggyworld and is a 3.88 R/P 3.76 2.06 1.26 0.82 FF with hardened side cover, welded forks 3rd / 4th and superdiff.
Things i would change: With my adjusters on the beam adjusted as low as i can be, I would have opted for 205/55s instead. And thats about it. I have no regrets on how its set up because most of all the things i did was inspired by input on this post by many of you. I need to find lead wieghts and secure it to the front trunk to limit my bug from lifting the front off the ground when i pound it outta the hole. As an afterthought, I couldve gotten away with a 3 inch shortened beam and still retained the shock towers and shocks.
Things to keep in mind when you go this route: Realize that using a trans raise kit you have to have patience because you will have to install your trans and midmount a few times for fitment ( easier with a friend that is patient too). Count on getting super oily for this step. The mid mount was a pain in the butt fitting where i needed it. Lifting the trans 1 inch i was forced to bore open the hole that the shifter coupling passes thru and cutting open a clearing for the rod ( once assembled to the trans via the coupling) to move freely forward and aft. A plasma cutter was my buddy for that adventure . After your done mounting and setting up the trans, nows a good time to change your gear oil. I didnt know but when i installed the front disk brake kit there are parts that will be reused and parts that arent. The Kingpin assembly will have to be disassembled ( hydraulic press) to be used with the CB drop spindle.Nows a good time to rebuild that portion of your steering and suspension because if you think of it... it hasnt been changed and likely serviced since the 60's. At that point I opted to rebuild the pins/assembly and got lucky finding original German Febi. Oh yea be wary on what rims you use with this set up because the 16x6 Fuchs just cleared the front brake caliper. All in all, I am happy with my final set up. The Sumitomo HTR's are awesome handling tires especially for Hawaii's fickle weather. Thanks to everyone who posted their set up on this post. It helped me tremendously. -Jon

Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:44 am

Looking good!