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Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:59 pm

i got a 1600dp motor, basically stock that i'm rebuilding. I found a dual advance/retard dist in my box of parts that looks in really good shape, but the vacuum advance unit has the nipple that's broken off.

here are the #'s on the dist:

JFU 4
0 231 167 070
113 905 205AN

I'm wondering what the dist is from and if i can use it on my motor, i currently have a 009, and stock 34pict

can i use this single advance vacuum pod on my distributor?: https://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D311%2D905%2D271

thanks.

Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:48 pm

I believe that carb was made for a dual vacuum distributor. The 205AN is a late distributor and should work for your engine/carb.

That vacuum unit is not meant for that distributor.
Glenn might be able to help, he seems to be a distributor guru.

Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:53 pm

Try this one
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=IGD0007&cartid=0403200768055517

Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:02 pm

Grifter wrote: Try this one
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=IGD0007&cartid=0403200768055517

how is that one different? i can't use the one in my original post link?

Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:52 am

The picture is the same but there is a menu to select advance (single vacuum) or advance and retard (dual vacuum...the one your dist is meant to have).

Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:21 am

can i use the single vacuum pot? that's what i'd like to do , so basically i'm looking to convert it to SVDA. :?:

Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:21 am

can i use the single vacuum pot? that's what i'd like to do , so basically i'm looking to convert it to SVDA. :?:

Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:39 am

I'm still learning about them myself, we're now officially on the verge of being over my head.....but here's what I THINK is the case:

That single vac pot may fit, but I believe the vacuum signal from your carburetor will be too strong for it. Also, I don't think the 205AN has any mechanical advance function like an SVDA.
Is there a particular reason you don't want to run the dual vacuum?

Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:40 am

yes, i would like to order from CIP because if i order one $20 part from aircooled, then the shipping, exchange, duty, tax, broakerage will end up costing me $80 (i'm in canada).
i thought the distributor has mechanical advance??

here is the description i found on the net:
Beetle 1972-1973 * 1600 Manual Trans

Distributor: VW 113-905-205AN, Bosch 0231 167 070 > 043-905-205C, 0231 176 028
Can Use: VW 113-905-205AJ, Bosch 0231 167 049
Points: 01 011
Points Replacement Plate Assy: VW 311-905-227C, Bosch 1237 110 161
Condensor: 02 054
Rotor: 04 033
Dust Cover: 039-905-241, Bosch 1230 500 139 > 1230 500 147
Cap: 03 010
Distributor Cap Clip: 034-905-265, Bosch 1231 251 033
Parts Kit (Shims, Washers & Hardware): 059-998-211, Bosch 1237 010 007
Coil: 00 015 (Blue Coil: 00 012)
Vacuum Can: 07 102
Ignition Wires: 09 001
Spark Plug: W8AC
Timing Set At:: 5deg ATDC @ 800-950rpm w/strobe, vacuum hose(s) connected
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum: 5-8deg Adv, 11-13deg Ret; Centrifugal: 6-12deg @ 1500rpm, 22-25deg @ 3800rpm

i was hoping i could use the vacuum pot from cip.??

Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:33 am

Well, right you are then. I guess we ARE officially over my head!
I'll be shutting up now.

Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:41 am

damm, just when i thought you were going to tell me!!!!

i guess nobody can answer my question? :?

Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:09 pm

This distributor has both vacuum and mechanical (centrifugal) advance. I'm not sure about the advance only vacuum can, but the dual vacuum can has a built in spring that re-positions the distributor. I tried to install a single vacuum can on the samedistributor that would work with my carb, but without the spring in the can, it won't re-position. I suggest you buy the dual can. You can always leave the retard line off and use the distributor as a SVDA.