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Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:27 pm

I have a few glass headlight covers that I'd like to identify what year they fit. Some have ID numbers, one is totally bare. Can anyone point me to a resource?

Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:36 pm

Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55

Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:38 pm

janerick3 wrote: Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55

Thank you VERY much. That's exactly what I was looking for.

Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:37 pm

first of all coolest site in the known universe if you got a vw!
i have a 1964 type 1 pretty much all original and correct apart from being rear ended 2 weeks ago , which will soon be rectified with period used parts and a splash of L87 , sorry headlight glass i have one bosch and one hella which is fine but i want to put porsche lenses i think bosch part no. H4? and i would like to know if these lenses drop straight into 64 vw frames and also i would like to fit orange indicator bulbs and holders into the headlight , theres plenty of room i guess , and fill the holes in the wings, which i class as reversible (if you have a drill) anyway any help and advice will be gratefully recieved thanks for your time wez

Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:46 pm

everything you want to do is easy as swapin the glass and bulbs.. the part no h4 is a bulb not the glass.. you can get the glass at any of the websites.. or you can find og glass edit. if you want the indicator bubls in the housing you need to wire the turn sig to them as stock they are running lights.. it is easy just take your time and it will look cool..

Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:22 am

I have mismatched lenses that I pulled out of a 65 bug.

One reads E1.0671.01 and the other reads 214.592. Both lenses read "Made in Germany" w/ matching housing that reads 111.941.037A HELLA 180E 25-4-SB2 2 S.

Need info on the 214.592 lens and the housing.

Thanks!

Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:46 am

nedz wrote: I have mismatched lenses that I pulled out of a 65 bug.

One reads E1.0671.01 and the other reads 214.592. Both lenses read "Made in Germany" w/ matching housing that reads 111.941.037A HELLA 180E 25-4-SB2 2 S.

Need info on the 214.592 lens and the housing.

Thanks!

The "2S" indicates the assemblies were made the 2nd week of 1957. If there are no other numbers (25484) on the face of the "E1..." lens, it's probably og. I've seen the "592" lenses on sealed beam conversion kits from the 1950s, but are usually marked "1-592". This could be an aftermarket replacement lens. The 592 lenses I've seen are marked with "top" instead of "oben" at twelve o'clock.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:48 am

janerick3 wrote: Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55

Quote: The "2S" indicates the assemblies were made the 2nd week of 1957. If there are no other numbers (25484) on the face of the "E1..." lens, it's probably og. I've seen the "592" lenses on sealed beam conversion kits from the 1950s, but are usually marked "1-592". This could be an aftermarket replacement lens. The 592 lenses I've seen are marked with "top" instead of "oben" at twelve o'clock.

That is awesome info, but im curious, where did you come up with it? I would love to be able to find more indepth info like that. 8-[

Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:39 pm

dalbey58 wrote: janerick3 wrote: Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55

Quote: The "2S" indicates the assemblies were made the 2nd week of 1957. If there are no other numbers (25484) on the face of the "E1..." lens, it's probably og. I've seen the "592" lenses on sealed beam conversion kits from the 1950s, but are usually marked "1-592". This could be an aftermarket replacement lens. The 592 lenses I've seen are marked with "top" instead of "oben" at twelve o'clock.

That is awesome info, but im curious, where did you come up with it? I would love to be able to find more indepth info like that. 8-[

Date codes: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279505

Other info: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=180652

Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:56 pm

Quote: Date codes: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=279505

Other info: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=180652

Awesome, thanks much.

Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:12 pm

janerick3 wrote: Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55

This is an awesome post.

I just wanted to know what is the significance of the 26-60370-03 or similar (xx-60370-03 format) numbers to the left of the Made in Germany text on SB19 SB20 SB21 headlamp lenses? Is it date related?

Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:05 am

branston wrote: janerick3 wrote: Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55

This is an awesome post.

I just wanted to know what is the significance of the 26-60370-03 or similar (xx-60370-03 format) numbers to the left of the Made in Germany text on SB19 SB20 SB21 headlamp lenses? Is it date related?

60370-3/-03 is the part number for the clear, non-fluted Hella lens used from late 1963 - on. I believe 26 is the mould number and they are age-approximate.

Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:08 pm

janerick3 wrote: branston wrote: janerick3 wrote: Totally bare--current repro
"SB19 SB20 SB21" across bottom, Hella logo only--late '63-early '80s
"E1.0671.01" across bottom, both Hella (top) and VW logos--'56-'63
- "25484" in lower left corner-- ~'59-'63
- "25484" along inside top of rim--'56-~'58
No "E" number, just Hella logo at top and VW logo at bottom--'53-'56
- No vestigial oval in center of lens--late '55-'56
- Vestigial oval in center--'53-'55

This is an awesome post.

I just wanted to know what is the significance of the 26-60370-03 or similar (xx-60370-03 format) numbers to the left of the Made in Germany text on SB19 SB20 SB21 headlamp lenses? Is it date related?

60370-3/-03 is the part number for the clear, non-fluted Hella lens used from late 1963 - on. I believe 26 is the mould number and they are age-approximate.

Thanks Janerick3 I'm astonished, impressed and thankful of your knowledge of headlight lenses. I have a lot of these lenses and was interested to know. Pity I don't have matched pair.

Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:49 pm

Just wanted to know what would have been the correct lens for my 56 Oval. (Which model number as the numbers seem to overap one another in terms of the years of use from reading this thread)

I have a UK bug but I want to fit US Style headlights whilst at the same time making sure the lenses match my year.

Do you happen to know if I need to purchase different rims so they are year specific also, if so what would I need?

Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:38 pm

What if the lens is fluted on top & rest is clear
and just says " Made in Germany " across the bottom?
What year & type?
thx guys in advance

Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:13 am

Is "592" cast into the glass anywhere? Is the word "top" (not "oben") cast at the top of the lens, over the fluted area?

Without more details/pics, I believe this is a aftermarket replacement part, produced by or for a company other than Hella.

Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:36 am

janerick3 wrote: Is "592" cast into the glass anywhere? Is the word "top" (not "oben") cast at the top of the lens, over the fluted area?

Without more details/pics, I believe this is a aftermarket replacement part, produced by or for a company other than Hella.

Yes he just told me there is "SB19 SB20 SB21"
I guess it is a late 63'- 80'
I will keep looking for 58' ones or earlier.
Thanks janerick3 for your help!

Fri May 23, 2014 2:11 am

Do any of you lot happen to have old Bosch & Hella catalogues available, please?

I'm specifically after headlight lense codes for the RHD market.

I have a number of lenses that I'm struggling to find info' on. They do not match the codes listed here, or elsewhere on the TS/Google, so far.

Thank you.

Fri May 23, 2014 4:10 pm

note: these are all fluted lenses.

'64 bosch catalogue (that has both old and 10 digit part no's 8) )

fitments from the headlight listing, lenses from the corresponding headlight spare parts listing.

beetle symmetrical lense : 1 305 614 001 / LEFE 28 L 2 X (this is listed as for Volkswagen, trucks Magirus. so I expect it doesn't have the VW logo)(there are no other listings for upright symmetrical headlights, but the spare list has 3 other listings to suit???)

beetle rhd asymmetrical lense : 1 305 604 080 / LEFE 98 L 4 X

beetle lhd asymmetrical lense : 1 305 604 081 / LEFE 98 L 5 X

Porsche rhd asymmetrical lense : 1 305 614 025 / LEFE 98 L 18 X

Porsche lhd asymmetrical lense : 1 305 604 081 / LEFE 98 L 5 X (the same as lhd beetle...? )

Auto-Union rhd asymmetrical lense : 1 305 604 085 / LEFE 98 L 8 X

Auto-Union lhd asymmetrical lense : 1 305 604 082 / LEFE 98 L 9 X

edit:

from a circa '61 bosch automotive lamps catalogue.

porsche symmetrical lense : LEFE 28 L 8 X (=1 305 614 004)

Fri May 23, 2014 4:31 pm

from "genuine replacement parts for Volkswagen" '67 (hella Australia)

vw sedan 1948 - aug 1960 : lense hella catalogue 9001 vw part no 111 941 115

vw sedan aug 1960 - 1968 : lense, hella catalogue 9008 vw part no 112 941 115