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Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:49 am

Hi,
here are some nice pics i made of 2 orginal Hebs wich are both in restauration in the same shop.
Bye Christian

Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:45 am

What a sight to see! Some people are very lucky in this world. :D

What are the stories on those cars?

Aloha!

Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:10 pm

Christian,

What is the time frame for the completion of these cars?
Will they be done in time for Hessisch-Oldendorf in 2009?

Tschüss!

Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:22 pm

Hi Dave,
we want them both ready by end of 2008.
Bye the way - i want to set up a Hebmuller line up at our next show in Hessisch Oldendorf in 2009
Bye Christian

Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:56 pm

kdfkid wrote: Hi Dave,
we want them both ready by end of 2008.
Bye the way - i want to set up a Hebmuller line up at our next show in Hessisch Oldendorf in 2009
Bye Christian

Cool! My GF *really* enjoyed our trip to Germany for Bad Camberg, so we'll definitely be there!

Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:58 pm

sorry my ignorance , but ..what is that rectangular opening near the speedo pod for ??? :oops:

Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:03 pm

Wow cool. The bodies look really solid. Good luck with the rest of the project.
Paul

Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:33 pm

This photo was taken at Mark Schlachter's Shop in Cincinnati, OH, in 2004.....

Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:26 am

Dave wrote: This photo was taken at Mark Schlachter's Shop in Cincinnati, OH, in 2004.....

Are these cars finished?

Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:08 am

Christian.. nice picts indeed.
The cars will be ready for next show.
I will try to get as many Hebmullers from belgium to your place in 2009.
You can count for sure alreaddy 1.car and maybe just maybe a surprisecar 8) to be shown in the same row.

I will ask the owners of the Belgium Hebmullers to get their cars readdy to be driven, towed; trailerd or even pushed t :D o the show

The picts in the shop in cincinnatti are known by me.
It should be 2 hebmullers but I see only one? :roll:
I have a few pics from Mark and we are in touch but it seems that one heb is newly constructed altough I have not seen it in the flesh( and probably never will see it in real) On the other hand nice work.

Greetings. Hebby New year
Peter

Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:15 am

V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote: Dave wrote: This photo was taken at Mark Schlachter's Shop in Cincinnati, OH, in 2004.....

Are these cars finished?

No, I don't believe they are.
One of them belongs to the shop owner, Mark, and it has a photo of it in a book about Hebs (by Keith Seume, I think....??) where it was painted white, and had been rolled out of a barn, in... Alabama??
Anyway, the barn it was photographed outside of caught fire, and the Heb got so hot, that the windshield pillars drooped down over the dashboard. Mark has been slowly metalworking the car back, as he gets time (his shop caters to very wealthy Porsche 550, 911, 904, etc, and Rolls-Royce owners, and Mark manages to stay quite busy, plus, he is one of the "main men" behind the Cincinnati VW Club, and he does stuff like turning Porsche Boxsters into 550 Spyder-looking cars, all, of course, in metal) and the other Heb belongs to a customer of Marks, from Kentucky.
That's really about all I remember. I know Mark finally found a Heb decklid a year or so ago; he said the one that burned was too far gone, (even for a Metal Master like himself)
Mark has been real anal about his Heb, to the point of, if he has to replace any metal, it is coming from like-year VWs, eg, 1949-1950 as donor cars, which, of course, has really limited his ability to source parts....so I don't expect it to be done any time soon.
<edit> Peter, by the time I had typed in my response, you had posted... There are two hebs in that photo, the more complete one in the background, and you can see the one in the foreground, that has had the bumper mounts welded on, that is the one that will be getting the windshield/dash clip shown in the photo, if it hasn't already. For any updates, I would suggest e-mailing or calling Mark direct.

Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:37 am

Hi dave .
I know Mark is a bussy man. I will mail him again.
I wish that he could show us a pict of the car that was burnt. I know a part of the history and the barn find before the fire.
I did learn alot of him about details on Hebmuller.
I do not think he made a new heb and I do not want to offend anybody but:
The car in the back ( not with welded bumper support) is a reguar beetle to me. Not a Heb.
It is altough possible to restore the left over parts and graft them on a beetle. But a new hebengine cover, a resto of the air intake , and no reinforcements in the front or back.
I know that there are more hebs restored like that: Built on a donor beetle with rescued parts of the rusted heb.

Maybe you can ask Mark to show you the picts and scan them in or retake them with digital format.

Hebby new year. Greetings Peter

Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:47 am

peter schepens wrote: Hi dave .
I know Mark is a bussy man. I will mail him again.
I wish that he could show us a pict of the car that was burnt. I know a part of the history and the barn find before the fire.
I did learn alot of him about details on Hebmuller.
I do not think he made a new heb and I do not want to offend anybody but:
The car in the back ( not with welded bumper support) is a reguar beetle to me. Not a Heb.
It is altough possible to restore the left over parts and graft them on a beetle. But a new hebengine cover, a resto of the air intake , and no reinforcements in the front or back.
I know that there are more hebs restored like that: Built on a donor beetle with rescued parts of the rusted heb.

Maybe you can ask Mark to show you the picts and scan them in or retake them with digital format.

Hebby new year. Greetings Peter

IRS chassis also

Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:57 am

I like this Shop.

all the best Christian.

tom

Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:11 pm

The one on the IRS pan, is on that pan while the other, correct one, is being sourced for parts, and restoration, and so the car can still be rolled around the shop- thats the "Burn victim" and that's why Mark is using 1949 and 1950 sheet metal to (somewhat) re-body the car. He intends to build it exactly as they did in Wulfrath, I guess you could say he is doing to the car, what the factory did some 59 years ago....or as close as he can. I do commend him for taking an otherwise beyond hope Heb, and bringing it back to as close to factory, as humanly possible. No, it won't have the original air in the tires or anything, but unless you know somebody that has some NOS sheetmetal for a Heb, he is doing what most consider the next best thing.
And yes, the Heb-only re-inforcements will be going back into the car.

Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:19 pm

peter schepens wrote: Hi dave .
I know Mark is a bussy man. I will mail him again.
I wish that he could show us a pict of the car that was burnt. I know a part of the history and the barn find before the fire.
I did learn alot of him about details on Hebmuller.
I do not think he made a new heb and I do not want to offend anybody but:
The car in the back ( not with welded bumper support) is a reguar beetle to me. Not a Heb.
It is altough possible to restore the left over parts and graft them on a beetle. But a new hebengine cover, a resto of the air intake , and no reinforcements in the front or back.
I know that there are more hebs restored like that: Built on a donor beetle with rescued parts of the rusted heb.

Maybe you can ask Mark to show you the picts and scan them in or retake them with digital format.

Hebby new year. Greetings Peter

If I remember right there was a pic in HOT VW or VW Trends years ago of what the car looked like.

Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:59 am

Yes, it was in VW Trends, and taken at the Central Ohio VW Club's Volksfest, at Watkins Memorial High School, just east of Columbus, OH. Mark had all the pieces loaded up into a Ford Ranger truck; thats how I first saw the Heb (or what's left of it).
I think I might still have those photos around here somewhere, but they are 35mm slides (which is what we used before the advent of digital)

Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:46 am

Hi folks, Anny of you guys have that or those picts?
I whould like to see it.
You even can send it private if you do not want to post it public. It is fairly saf with me... 8)
You can clearly see the frame of a floorpan in the right corner of the pict dave posted.

I am sure Mark can finish the both cars. I do have the numbers of those cars. Now that I have read this again I understand that the car was burnt severe. I know the link to the pict when the car was found in the barn. But i could not find pict of the burned heb.

Mark has told me several details in the past on his heb and the other. One thing is that the rib between the air intake on his and the other heb in the shop is different in the construction. There is one assembled and one pressed.
He also told me about the cardboard card that was delivered with the heb when new? :shock:

Dave, can you update us on the progress as Mark is to bussy working on other cars.. Say hello to him if you meet him.

Greetings

Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:59 am

Here is a pic that I took when visiting marks shop in 2004.

That guy does some amazing work!! This is the all steel Porsche mentioned earlier.

some more of his shops handy work that i spent the weekend admireing

Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:00 pm

I really don't get a chance to talk with or visit Mark much anymore, when I was working for the VW Magazines I went to Columbus and Cincinnati (where Mark's shop is) at least 2x a year to attend both the COVVC Volksfest in Columbus, and The Cincy VW Club's VW/Porsche Reunion, I got to visit with him, and see what was going on in his shop. I can tell you, that if ANYONE can bring that Heb back, and make it undetectable that the car was once given up for dead, it's Mark.
I remember him telling me about some strange anomaly on his air intake louver panel, now that you mention it...
Too bad making money off of Porsche and Rolls Royce and Ferrari owners cuts so much into his free time, I'd love to see that car done...