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Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:06 am

So I just put this motor in my 64 bug. I know it runs, and that's the important part. However, I am confused about what year motor this is. The stamp on the block indicates a 1965, correct?

However, the intake manifold is different, and I am still new to these cars (even though I've been trying to restore this thing for 4 years :lol: ), and I don't know what year that manifold started in, or what heads match that manifold (dual port?).

Please ignore the rainbow of wires. :lol: It's temporary to get things running.

Also, is this fuel pump rebuildable?

Thanks!

Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:14 am

It's an F case which was 1300 CC 66 year model BUT

It has been rebuilt into a Dual port 1600 based engine....

Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:28 am

Agree with Keifer; better put your hoses back on the fan shroud or you'll burn up the engine...and add your air cleaner....

Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:40 am

Thanks for the quick replies!

Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:20 pm

keifernet wrote: It's an F case which was 1300 CC 66 year model BUT

It has been rebuilt into a Dual port 1600 based engine....

Happy New Year Boys, Did you miss me? Case serial numbers are meaningless as someone could have used anything from 83mm,85.5,87,or even those nice 88 slip ins.. :D

Several weeks ago I mentioned how to use a 40hp case and make it a 1600 or better but if all you do is read serial numbers yer screwed.. Sold another VW this place rocks thank Ev.

Jim-

Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:44 pm

Cusser wrote: Agree with Keifer; better put your hoses back on the fan shroud or you'll burn up the engine...and add your air cleaner....

...and the rest of the engine tin and seals.

Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:32 pm

Zundfolge1432 wrote: keifernet wrote: It's an F case which was 1300 CC 66 year model BUT

It has been rebuilt into a Dual port 1600 based engine....

Happy New Year Boys, Did you miss me? Case serial numbers are meaningless as someone could have used anything from 83mm,85.5,87,or even those nice 88 slip ins.. :D

Several weeks ago I mentioned how to use a 40hp case and make it a 1600 or better but if all you do is read serial numbers yer screwed.. Sold another VW this place rocks thank Ev.

Jim-

Pretty much what I said eh Jim?

Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:27 pm

HerrrKafer wrote: Cusser wrote: Agree with Keifer; better put your hoses back on the fan shroud or you'll burn up the engine...and add your air cleaner....

...and the rest of the engine tin and seals.

Of course. :) Those pics were taken while I was working on it.

Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:36 pm

F-0 was a 67 1500 1.5 lt motor, not a 1300, it has obviously been upgraded, and as keith stated, who knows what size it is.

Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:11 pm

Project_67 wrote: F-0 was a 67 1500 1.5 lt motor, not a 1300, it has obviously been upgraded, and as keith stated, who knows what size it is.

Where did you get that info?

Volkswagen Type 1

Code: Year: Engine:
4 1960 1200
5 1961 1200
6 1962 1200
7 1963 1200
8 1964 1200
9 1965 1200
FO 1966 1300
HO/TO 1967 1500
H5 1968-1969 1500
B6 1970 1600 (dual relief, single-port)
AE 1971-1972 1600 (dual-port)
AH 1973-1974 1600 (8mm head studs w/ case savers)
AJ 1975-1979 1600 (fuel-injected)

Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:19 pm

keifernet wrote: Project_67 wrote: F-0 was a 67 1500 1.5 lt motor, not a 1300, it has obviously been upgraded, and as keith stated, who knows what size it is.

Where did you get that info?

Volkswagen Type 1

Code: Year: Engine:
4 1960 1200
5 1961 1200
6 1962 1200
7 1963 1200
8 1964 1200
9 1965 1200
FO 1966 1300
HO/TO 1967 1500
H5 1968-1969 1500
B6 1970 1600 (dual relief, single-port)
AE 1971-1972 1600 (dual-port)
AH 1973-1974 1600 (8mm head studs w/ case savers)
AJ 1975-1979 1600 (fuel-injected)

Ooooopppps
:oops:

Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:34 pm

OK, I am confused with the engine code chart.It starts off with a number,then in later years goes to a letter,then numbers?I have a 1958 with an apparent european 40hp circa 1966,but I am not sure.It has a removable generator stand and the engine block #s are as follows; D 247564x.The x denotes a factory rebuild,I think. Any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks!

Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:53 pm

welcomewagen wrote: OK, I am confused with the engine code chart.It starts off with a number,then in later years goes to a letter,then numbers?I have a 1958 with an apparent european 40hp circa 1966,but I am not sure.It has a removable generator stand and the engine block #s are as follows; D 247564x.The x denotes a factory rebuild,I think. Any help would be greatly appreciated,thanks! \\

The "D" case is a Euro spec case and AFAIK is not a production year model 66 case.... *but I might be mistaken

in the USA 40 HP were pre letter codes

Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:59 pm

Thanks! So what year is my engine and what size? Again,those numbers are D 247564 x. Thanks!

Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:48 pm

welcomewagen wrote: Thanks! So what year is my engine and what size? Again,those numbers are D 247564 x. Thanks!

Not sure about the year your case could be. And the only way to know for sure what the CC's are is to tear into the engine and see.

A pic might help identify it further though.

Replacement Cases
(Never supplied in new cars -- only sold over the counter. All are
dual-relief with 10mm oil passages).

Code: Year: Engine:
F1 1300/1600
F2 1300/1600
DO 40-hp part if last digit is "X"
D1 Sometimes a 40-hp part
AB 1966-1979 1600
AD 1600
AK 1967-1974 1500/1600
AM 1600
AS Sometimes listed as Super Beetle orig. case
for '73-on.

Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:53 pm

welcomewagen wrote: Thanks! So what year is my engine and what size? Again,those numbers are D 247564 x. Thanks!

D blocks were 1200s produced after they stopped selling them in the US, but were used in other markets for years afterwards. The D 267564 would have been from 1968. However the X means it was factory refurbished and it really could be anything now.

Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:24 am

Thanks guys! I really appreciate the help. I kinda figured it was a European rebuilt,just was not sure on the size.It is in my 1958 Beetle,who I purchased from the original owner.She bought it new and had to have the engine rebuilt when they were on vacation in New Mexico back in 1978.Apparently,the shop had one of these 40hp engines either sitting on the shelf or from another supplier at the time.Isn't the history of a VW's time on earth great? Thanks again for the help!

Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:04 am

If it has the 40 hp style intake and heads then it's probably the stock 1200... or it could have the big bore 40 hp pistons and be a bit more cc's

Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:37 pm

Also the information Andy (glutamodo) posted in this thread will be of interest to you.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=270462