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Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:49 am

Those button head bolts can be left outl. They are just to keep the drum aligned while you put the wheel on. The lug bolts themselves take all the braking and acceleration torque.

Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:41 pm

Thanks for the tip Russ... so I went and tried to take off the bolts... only to find out that I don't own a 6mm hex socket so I make my way down to my hardware store and pick up a small set... happy camper... so I get home and spray the bolts with a little WD40 type stuff... have some lemonade, play with the pup a little... I go back and the first one comes off like a drunk sorority girl's panties. So I'm happy... go release the e-brake... spin the drum around so the other bolt is TDC... I start to turn it and slam! I fucking punch the ground... stripped head!!! So I hammer in a screwdriver to see if that will loose it... nope. I'm pissed at this point so I go have another lemonade... I call a couple of friends to see if they have any magical advice... they all laughed. (fuckers) so I went and got my trusty drill and took off the bolt, whacked the head with a hammer and VICTORY!

In this picture, you can see the hole in the bottom hole and the trunk of the other one still in the hole... I figured I'd just as well leave it in there so it is still doing its job of indexing the plate as Russ explained in the previous post.

So the adapters I got from CIP went on very quickly...

So why are you going through all this dumbness to run adapters instead of re-drilling and replacing things? Well, I'm lazy and I've run adapters in my other car (that has about 5x time HP) without any issues.

So the wheels that are going on are Porsche Turbos A.K.A. 7 slots. They aren't refinished yet but this was just a test fit so I could see what size tires I am going to want to run. They're 16x7 and 16x8 with et53.

There is maybe 1/8" poke on the front wheel... nothing the fender roller won't be able to take care of easily. I think the wheel is turned a little even. The tire is 205/55/16.

Here is the 3/4" (maybe 7/8") poke on the rear wheel. The tire in the picture is 225/50/16... I doubt I'll go that wide with the actual wheels but I think they look pretty cool.

The car is still at stock ride height so I took pictures of the fender gaps...

Out front... a little over 3 inches:

In back... about 2 /14 inches:

And for the last picture... if anyone asks you how 225 series tires on 8" wheels look like on a square, here you go:

Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:10 pm

Yeah, those bolts can be a bitch sometimes. I usually smack them with a hammer right off. If that doesnt work, I use a cold chisel to break them loose by driving them around.
I hope you don't [plan on lowering that car too much, or go off roading.
:roll:

Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:17 pm

Haha, I definitely dont plan on going off roading. I had a friend offer me his re-finished 15x6 et53 phone dials that I may now pass on, I'm not 100% sure. I knew that I couldn't lower it all that much because I have a steep driveway so 15" wheels and not being able to dump it isnt really the look I'm going for... the way I figure, with these wheels, I'll be able to make a mild drop look good. The tires these will eventually have won't be as wide either. :P

Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:48 am

So a quick update. I haven't really been doing a heck of a lot since its end of quarter at work and it gets crazy. I did manage to do a little work on the rear cargo area this weekend.

So the metal has been trimmed a little and all the well welds have been drilled out. I'm hopeful to have the new to me metal installed within the next couple of weeks. 8)

And before I forget, it turns out that, for Porsche applications, the adapters from CIP1 do fit the stock 19mm heads... unfortunately, the socket needed to fit said OEM bolt doesnt. This is due to the proximity of 2 of the holes to the lugs that attach to the adapter itself. So what do you do? Either find a place that has 14M 1.5 bolts with a 17mm head (Although H&R used to make them but no longer you can have the wrong kind shipped to you by Eurosport - Ask me how I know - I'm kidding, Ivan and Hubert have been awesome sorting this out). Another option is to trim each bolt to a smaller size so a thinner socket fits in the hole or C (which is what I had done) is to trim a 19mm socket in width to fit. A local machine shop charged me $30 to do it which was a deal considering that bolts from CIP were going to be close to $70 before shipping.

So now that I can properly fit the spacers, tire shopping time. :D

Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:18 am

Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:54 pm

RafCarre12 wrote:

I like the late model VW wheels on the right. Does anyone know if those fit on a 67 squareback?

Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:08 pm

They're actually Audi TT wheels. They're 5x100 with an et32 or et35. I use them on my 02 Jetta. You'd be able to fit them if you redrill your mounting points, otherwise, adapters would make them mexipoke.

Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:47 pm

No mexipoke for me. lol What is the dimensions of the rim 16x7???
Thanks

Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:34 am

They're actually 17x7. They just seem smaller due to the big fender wells on the mk4 platform. I looked it up and the offset is et30. I run a 12mm spacer in back so it sits flush with the fender.

Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:09 pm

Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:36 am

Just a little fun with photoshop...

Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:27 pm

Looks like your seat bases and door window handles are from an earlier T3, like '67. Nice going on the progress. Seems like an unusually solid car. Carbs look like CB Performance "Baby Dell'Orto" kit (34 FRD). Do you know about the VW meet in Englishtown NJ early April?

My '70 Fasty has been sitting for 10 months; am taking the dual Weber 40 DCNFs off (thirsty) and installing a pair of single-throat Solex 32 PDSITs with larger venturies. Type 3s drive so nicely.

Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:22 pm

Rome wrote: Looks like your seat bases and door window handles are from an earlier T3, like '67. Nice going on the progress. Seems like an unusually solid car. Carbs look like CB Performance "Baby Dell'Orto" kit (34 FRD). Do you know about the VW meet in Englishtown NJ early April?

My '70 Fasty has been sitting for 10 months; am taking the dual Weber 40 DCNFs off (thirsty) and installing a pair of single-throat Solex 32 PDSITs with larger venturies. Type 3s drive so nicely.

Thanks for the insight! I was looking for cars out west initially but I came across this one on ebay... then come to find that it was more solid then anything else I'd seen in a while in the price range, I jumped on it... I think I overpaid about 5 or $600 for it but when taking into account that there wasn't going to be a 1k shipping charge, I'm happy with my decision.

I'll definitely be at Spring ShowNGo again this year. I've been going for a few years now but this will be my first on the aircooled side. :)

Lets see some pictures of your Fasty!

Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:36 am

Saturday morning...

Option A) Work on the car.
Option B) Help lady with the house chores.
Option C) Brooklyn Brewery for all day drunken debauchery.

...this isn't a tough one.

Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:27 pm

Option B, then A.

Some photos of my car are in the "gallery" button along bottom of my post; go to page 2. Does have some rot in the front fenders that I have not patched/fixed yet. Mine was also a NE car (spent most of its life in Brooklyn!) but was solid from front door pillar back.

If I'm in town I'll attend E-Town also, not to display but to drive which- ever of my 3 ACVWs that are running at moment. Would you show your T3 in an AC class?

Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:41 pm

I might show it just to get a better parking spot. :D 99% of my friends are going to be on the water cooled side but I'm not shy so I'll be over on the AC side. :181_blue:

Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:36 pm

Small update: Ordered the exhaust and tires today. Picked up the ISP West over the top setup. As most of you know, the nice thing about this setup is that the muffler hangs above the coupler and not below thus leaving a lot more clearing when lowering the car. These are actually ISP's pictures but I'll have mine up by the weekend hopefully.

Also ended up getting Falken Azenis for the 7slots, I really hope they fit the way I want them to fit. I'm going to be running a 205/40's in front and 215/50's in back... the slots had 205/55's and 225/50's originally and they fit okay but I'm hoping I went short enough on the walls to avoid rubbing issues. I'm hoping the back will stretch a little so I can drop the car the way I want.... Inevitably, the fenders will be rolled. 8)

A buddy of mine is going to give me a hand with stripping and polishing the wheels (thanks Ant) which is great because it frees me up to keep doing the metal work on the pan. Hopefully, with his (and other's) help, it'll be ready for Spring ShowNGo on the 13th.

Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:58 pm

Where did you find the mesh visor??? I want one\

By the way I really like the look you have with the car

Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:07 pm

67stang302 wrote: Where did you find the mesh visor??? I want one\

By the way I really like the look you have with the car

I got it from Vic the Aussie. I think he has a ad on here for them somewhere. I can look for it if you really want one. And thanks for the compliment!

Today's Update: Since the new exhaust is on its way, I thought I'd remove the old one. The muffler itself was more hole then muffler so I just chopped it off instead of trying to deal with rusty bolts. All the bolts are gone but I think the PO had the heater pipes welded together so I'll deal with that on the weekend.

I don't think I ever posted pictures of the front pan after I wired brushed it so here it is... not too bad for a NE car I dont think.

I also cut off a little more of the rusted out pieces. Rough shaped the hole up some too. I think I am going to need to box in underneath where the new to me pieces and the existing part of the car is going to meet... that would make me feel better about the work.

Oh and if anyone can help me fill these holes, it would really be appreciated. I don't think this hatch is original to the car so I'm not exactly sure what part number I should be looking for.