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Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:56 pm

Anybody have any ideas or feedback on this concept? :?:

Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:07 pm

if you have to walk ten miles to get the patch, it will certainly help get rid of unwanted pounds.

if you want less fat, eat less heavily processed foods, and get more excercise. obesity is usually caused by certain metabolisms reaction to eating too much processed foods and lack of excercise.

there is no easy way out.

the way that laboratories can get mice to become obese is to feed them MSG.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:21 pm

You'll definitely lose weight.

...from your wallet! :lol:

Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:28 pm

With are last child my wife had gestational diabetes. We switched our diet from fast food and carboard box processed food to whole foods. We also cut are portions way back and count carbs. Not a very difficult or expensive thing to do, but we both have lost weight. I have lost 20 pounds in 2 months. She hasn't lost as much because she is breast feeding the baby and me :lol: . It has to be a lifstyle not a temporary thing.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:31 pm

From the business side of it, it is a wonderful idea because it will sell. People will do anything at any cost to take the easy way out. If you can sell them and sleep at night, more power to you.

Here is a secret Americans don't know... Diet and Exercise.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:45 pm

Mouth size would be best.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:14 pm

If you want to lose weight:

1. Calculate how many calories a day you are eating.
(Look at the nutritional information on the packages)

2. Calculate how many calories a day you are burning.
Here's a calculator that might help:
http://www.stevenscreek.com/goodies/calories.shtml

Make sure #2 is greater than #1 and you will lose weight.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:21 pm

I lost 30 lbs in 11 days, while I was in the hospital and was fed with an IV at first, and then off the hospital menu.
I put it right back on when I got home, because it was/is so easy to snack.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:01 pm

piemat wrote: Here is a secret Americans don't know... Diet and Exercise.

In the past 2 years I have tried a couple of different diet pills. Of course they didn't do anything because I was still eating fast food and only went to the gym once or twice a week when I could talk somebody into going with me.

When I moved to LA I started walking to work every day, only a half mile one-way but I also walk everywhere to do my shopping. I quit eating at fast food places and I cook at home now, except for the occasional pizza delivery :D. I've lost about 15 lbs in the last 4 mos which doesn't seem like much but it's 15 lbs that I never lost while using diet pills. :lol:

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Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:06 pm

As mentioned above, calories in verses calories out. Pretty simple concept actually, but sticking to it is easier said than done.

Don't waste your time, money and health on these ridiculous products that promise you magic. Eat right and become more active and the weight will disappear, guaranteed. Good luck.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:19 pm

All that driving through is hard on your clutch as well.

Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:23 pm

I've found a pretty good trick... being lazy. I'm simply to lazy to make anything complicated, and i don't have the money for fast-food. I often eat only one meal a day, combined with taking the bike to school (about 2 minutes) I've lost the few extra kilos i had but nothing more. 193 cm and 85 kg seems pretty decent to me.
Was in the navy last year, All the food i could eat an doing practicaly nothing all day. even with 2 hours of exersize twice a week i gaind nearly 15 kg. the food at the wourld scout jamboree took kear of that :roll:

Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:55 am

What ever happened to eating less and moving your ass a little more???

Smart ass comment aside; I lost 100 pounds by changing my diet, no weight watchers, no pills, no hipnosis mumbo jumbo....I stuck to a meal plan that I made up myself (Burritto's were the staple of the diet!! :P )

The patch isn't going to cure the reason one's all Fat, change your eating habits and do it right

Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:45 am

I have to agree with most of what everyone is saying: eat better and less, exercise more. Diets do not work. Nor do patches, pills, or whatever else they are trying to market out there today. Also, YOU have to be the one that wants to lose weight/get healthier. Don't do it for anyone else, including society.

I finally put my mind to it back in September to get healthier and have since lost 45 pounds. Once the weather is a little better (heh, at -10*F right now, I am NOT going to go walking around the lake), that number will increase. I've added tons more fruit and veggies, rarely drink pop (err, soda), and I cook at home for as many meals as possible. It's all about choices. And you have the power to make them.

Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:50 am

Jessica wrote:
I finally put my mind to it back in September to get healthier and have since lost 45 pounds. Once the weather is a little better (heh, at -10*F right now, I am NOT going to go walking around the lake), that number will increase. I've added tons more fruit and veggies, rarely drink pop (err, soda), and I cook at home for as many meals as possible. It's all about choices. And you have the power to make them.

Pictures or it didn't happen.. :twisted:
Congratulations Jessica.
I met Jessica in person a few years ago. I bet you are some looker now. (Not that you weren't before.)

Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:26 am

Jessica wrote: I have to agree with most of what everyone is saying: eat better and less, exercise more. Diets do not work. Nor do patches, pills, or whatever else they are trying to market out there today. Also, YOU have to be the one that wants to lose weight/get healthier. Don't do it for anyone else, including society.

I finally put my mind to it back in September to get healthier and have since lost 45 pounds. Once the weather is a little better (heh, at -10*F right now, I am NOT going to go walking around the lake), that number will increase. I've added tons more fruit and veggies, rarely drink pop (err, soda), and I cook at home for as many meals as possible. It's all about choices. And you have the power to make them.
exactly

diets don't work, diet does. fast food, soda, etc. are evil. it is more than simply reducing the number of calories, it is all about reducing the type of calories, and backing it up with some excercise. walking or bicycling are the easiest way to get excecise. they are time consuming, but easier to get into and harder to burn out on than more intense workouts.

if you consume a sensible amount of calories from mostly whole foods, and get a reasonable amount of excercise, then in most cases, your body will reset to the weight that is healthy for your metabolism.

Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:22 pm

I recently read this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Beck-Diet-Solution-Train-Per...amp;sr=8-1

It explains how thin people think differently about food, how to identify how you can be sabotaging yourself if you trying to lose weight, and how to train your mind to change how you eat. It's not about dieting, it's about changing how you eat forever.

If you drink soda, think of it like a dessert. Do you eat 6 desserts every day? No. So don't drink 6 cans of soda.

Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:40 pm

the most difficult part of losing weight is keeping it off. over the past 6 or 7 years, my weight has bounced between 200 and 245. this is very hard on the ole' ticker! I do well for about 3 or 4 months, then I fall back into old eating habits...fast food, eating on the run, ordering pizza, etc. last March I weighed about 205, and here we are, not even 11 months later, and I'm above 230 again. Granted, getting married and my new job don't help (lots of office work).

the part that sucks is this: in your formative years, your body builds all of your fat cells. you will never have any more, or less than you have after puberty! This means, if you were a fat kid (me), its very hard to keep weight off, because of the number of fat cells I created for myself as a kid.

still, thats no excuse. Everett said it best, burn more than you eat, and weight will decrease. my resting metabolic rate is over 2500 calories per day! that means I have to eat quite a bit to gain weight...which I excel at.

Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:51 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: Pictures or it didn't happen.. :twisted:
Congratulations Jessica.
I met Jessica in person a few years ago. I bet you are some looker now. (Not that you weren't before.)

Thanks, Russ. No need for pics, you'll see me later this summer!

Lind wrote: walking or bicycling are the easiest way to get excecise. they are time consuming, but easier to get into and harder to burn out on than more intense workouts.

That is basically how I did it. I walk around one of the lakes here (at least a mile) every day. I have not done it as much during the winter because, well, it's cold! If it's 25*F or above and light out, I will go. I have been adding some jogging into it as well. I don't remember the last time before I started doing this that I actually wanted to run! Also, it is not nearly as time consuming as you might think. I have read that even ten minutes here and ten minutes there help. Since I started, I timed myself. It's kind of a game to see how much quicker I can do it. The other day when I was out there, I even saw an opossum! That made my walk worth it right there. Just some advice, you have to enjoy your exercise. If you dread it, it will most likely not be nearly as beneficial to you. Just get into it and have fun!

EverettB wrote: If you drink soda, think of it like a dessert. Do you eat 6 desserts every day? No. So don't drink 6 cans of soda.

:) Exactly.

Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:41 pm

Patches?? Give me a break.

Eat less crap, workout more.

Done.