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Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:42 pm

Will a Type I vw motor mount up to a Porsche 5spd tranny like in my 1976 912E and if so are there any special mods needed.[/b]

Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:17 am

I have been told that it will, but have never tried. Reminds me though that several years back I was driving a 356C coupe, and would razz the local Porsche club members by telling them that I was thinking about selling the 356 and buying a real Volkswagen.

Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:44 am

a type 4 motor will work better as the flywheel will mate to the starter properly.

Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:00 am

Bleyseng wrote: a type 4 motor will work better as the flywheel will mate to the starter properly.

thats because a 912E already has a T4 motor :wink: :wink: :wink:

Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:04 am

oldvdubber wrote: Will a Type I vw motor mount up to a Porsche 5spd tranny like in my 1976 912E and if so are there any special mods needed.[/b]

Yes it will work, but why would you want it to?
I believe it will come down to just changing the flywheel.

A 912E is a heavy car & Type 1 motor wasnt designed for such a car. Your car is designed for a T4 motor which came in the 411, 412, and also
the 914 as well as the later Bus.

Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:59 pm

a type 4 would be better in a 912e and would give you better all round perfomance then a type 1 plus as said the e is a type 4.

but ive be told you can do a type1 in to a 912. in fact im planning to do this myself. this summer in my 67. while the 912 engines out for a rebuild

http://www.geocities.com/clarkblumberg/911-912page9.html check out this on converting to a type 1
ive also noticed a 912 in the classifieds with a type 1. emailed the guy but no reponse as yet. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=579440

Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:28 am

dirty_rat wrote: but ive be told you can do a type1 in to a 912. in fact im planning to do this myself. this summer in my 67. while the 912 engines out for a rebuild
It's much easier putting a T1 engine into a '66-'69 912 than into a '76 912E. The T1 will bolt up more easily to a 901 trans than a 915, and the earlier cars were much lighter so performance should be better.

Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:59 am

It's your car but think long and hard before you put a Type I into a 912E. You will be devaluing it by thousands instantly. (I wish putting a Type IV into my Super had as dramatic of an upward effect on its value.)

Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:26 am

oasis wrote: It's your car but think long and hard before you put a Type I into a 912E. You will be devaluing it by thousands instantly. (I wish putting a Type IV into my Super had as dramatic of an upward effect on its value.)

i agree. go for a decent type 4 :D

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Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:12 pm

made a mistake

Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:40 pm

My 67 motor was long in the tooth and not the origional motor either.So I had Bergman build a nice 2376 motor and this week in she goes!!Meanwhile we painted the car, all new rubber,cables some glass, fog lights,headliner,wood 911 steering wheel,carpet on and on.I am very excited,.The motor should be rightous.I will post some pics

Sat May 03, 2008 10:46 am

Quote: So I had Bergman build a nice 2376 motor . I think that is an oxymoron :(

Sat May 03, 2008 2:18 pm

How so.?Bergman,? 2375? ornice? Are you telling me a Bergman motor is junk?Have you any evidence to support this claim?

Sat May 03, 2008 2:28 pm

Did you buy the green, red or yellow engine?

I had a friend buy a Bergmann 2332. A year later is ate a valve. We tore it down and we were surprised it lasted that long. It had stock 311B rods that were clearanced with a bench grinder and the bolts were ready to pull out. The case was paper tin at the top. The cam was also clearanced with a bench grinder and i'm sure none of the part were rebalanced.

The heads were EMPI out of the box and the pushrods were not all the same length.

Unfortunately he replaced it with a Serrano 1776 which just last week broke the #3 exhaust valve spring.

I wonder what will be the 3rd?

Sat May 03, 2008 3:13 pm

Hmmm.None of this sounds good. I do respect the opinion and comments of the forum community.We have yet to fire up the motor.The installation is slowly underway.Outside of tearing it down for an inspection, prior to install, I can cross my fingers and hope I have the one good motor built that month.

Sat May 03, 2008 4:35 pm

Bernie used to build some good stuff years ago but his rep has slipped in the last ten years or so. I used to buy stuff from him cuz he was local to me at the time, last thing I purchased was a welded 74mm TIV crank, it lasted about 30k before it broke. Hopefully you have better luck.

Mon May 05, 2008 2:31 pm

Glenn wrote: Did you buy the green, red or yellow engine?

I had a friend buy a Bergmann 2332. A year later is ate a valve. We tore it down and we were surprised it lasted that long. It had stock 311B rods that were clearanced with a bench grinder and the bolts were ready to pull out. The case was paper tin at the top. The cam was also clearanced with a bench grinder and i'm sure none of the part were rebalanced.

The heads were EMPI out of the box and the pushrods were not all the same length.

Unfortunately he replaced it with a Serrano 1776 which just last week broke the #3 exhaust valve spring.

I wonder what will be the 3rd?

Wonder if he wants to go quality next time??? Maybe he should contact Jake and get one of his 'kits' and have the quality built in... :wink: !!!

Hope he makes an informed decision this time. Cheap and inexpensive are not the same thing. With what he has in the first two engines, he could have had a really good quality engine the first time.

Take care,

Cohibra45