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Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:08 am

i get this message a lot through the classifieds:

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This message was not sent by a registered or logged in Samba user
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many times that sender has a yahoo, gmail, aol, or other free email account. while there is nothing wrong with that, i am hesitant to send any payment info to these people, because i don't really feel like having my accounts hacked, or for my mailing address to be out there for other uses. and with the amount of scams that pop up here, i don't think my concern is unwarranted. obviously i am aware that kind of info is obtainable elsewhere, but it just makes replying to the non-registered or not logged in user a bit more nerve racking to me. even when the same people reply a couple times to the same ad after i do not reply to their initial inquiries, it makes me wonder. i'd rather lose a $20 sale than to be ripped off.

is there any way to make it so that a person emailing someone through the classifieds has to be registered and logged in? i don' t know if that would make the emails any more legitimate, but at least you could get an idea about a person's samba identity, time on site, see if they have ads, etc.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:28 am

I have considered this before but at the moment I like having the site more "open" in that you don't have to be a registered member to view or use the site, only to add to site content. Further feedback is welcome.

I added that line because several people requested it, either because they prefer to deal with registered members only or simply to be able to research a person in case of issues or as a preventative measure.

I ignore it myself in most cases. I looked at my parts sales over the past week and there was a mixture of both registered and unregistered users. Everyone paid quickly with no troubles. In the past I have not kept track of who did or did not pay in a timely manner but I would guess that registered members would be more likely to do so.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:09 pm

I think if its a car and the person was gonna spend some $$$$ on it they shouldn't mind registering it might even cut down on scammers.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:18 pm

I frequently get replies from unregistered guests and a majority of my sales are to unregistered users. That makes me wonder why these people don't register. At least a buyer can post feedback as a registered user.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:36 pm

995% of my sales are to the unregistered users, I've had like 3 registered users buy the excess parts that I sell.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:34 pm

typesoneandtwo wrote: I frequently get replies from unregistered guests and a majority of my sales are to unregistered users. That makes me wonder why these people don't register. At least a buyer can post feedback as a registered user.

Well, when I registered here, it was when I had a question I couldn't get answered from searching. Hell, I lurked here unregistered for over a year before I signed up. I'm one of those that just doesn't give out my info (i.e. sign up) unless I ultimately have to.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:39 pm

i understand your point everett (and others). ultimately, it is up to me to decide if i reply to an email or not.
i guess the thing that gets to me is that sometimes it just feels like it may be a scam. i have received 2 emails in the past few days asking about a part for sale, asking for my paypal info. in the person's email, they have their name, business name, and phone number. the business does not exist (i could not find a listing in the yellow pages or on google), nor does the address. i have not called to see if anyone picks up the phone. obviously that person has not heard back from me.
i have not had any problems selling to unregistered users. i just like the "accountability" aspect of having to be logged in to send an email to a seller. i like the notification of whether or not a person is a registered user, that is a good feature. sometimes i get an email from "supersamba" with no return email, so that raises a flag to me, and i never reply with payment info to those types of emails.

Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:23 pm

Quote: sometimes i get an email from "supersamba" with no return email
Huh? Please forward these to me.

Feel free to forward me anything you have a question on and I will check it out.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:43 am

Sometimes I get on The Samba just because it's force of habit, and I forget to login. I'll be cruising the classifieds and I'll see a part I want to inquire about, so I'll contact the seller through it's email portal. The only thing I see on that end is I have to enter my info in the header of the email. Maybe there are other folks doing the same thing.

I can see that it's possible when it happens that I don't login, that the seller may not respond as fast as an inquiry from a registered member would be.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:26 pm

Kelley wrote: Sometimes I get on The Samba just because it's force of habit, and I forget to login. I'll be cruising the classifieds and I'll see a part I want to inquire about, so I'll contact the seller through it's email portal. The only thing I see on that end is I have to enter my info in the header of the email. Maybe there are other folks doing the same thing.

I can see that it's possible when it happens that I don't login, that the seller may not respond as fast as an inquiry from a registered member would be.
You could select the automatic login and you'll be logged in automatically whenever you visit from that computer. I use it and it's nice not to have to log in every time.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:24 pm

I clean my cache and visited websites daily from my computer so it forces me to login once per day. Its a good habit to get into. I dont leave home without my laptop, and walking around with a giant repository of bank/account/site information slung over my shoulder is not a good idea - especially in an urban area.

Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:43 pm

derv wrote: I clean my cache and visited websites daily from my computer so it forces me to login once per day. Its a good habit to get into. I dont leave home without my laptop, and walking around with a giant repository of bank/account/site information slung over my shoulder is not a good idea - especially in an urban area.

Not unless you are running Windows. Everything is encrypted on a Linux machine if you want it to.
And never surf as "root".

Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:12 pm

hazetguy wrote: ...... asking for my paypal info. in the person's email, they have their name, business name, and phone number.....
Why not call the guy????

Your paypal info is just your email address. Scammers already have that, ever notice the spam email folder before?

If you don't want to give them your PP email addy, ask for theirs. Then send them a PP money request. I find that whenever they supply that info, they almost always follow through with the sale. Sometimes it takes a reminder.

Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:35 am

Bruce wrote: hazetguy wrote: ...... asking for my paypal info. in the person's email, they have their name, business name, and phone number.....
Why not call the guy????

Your paypal info is just your email address. Scammers already have that, ever notice the spam email folder before?

If you don't want to give them your PP email addy, ask for theirs. Then send them a PP money request. I find that whenever they supply that info, they almost always follow through with the sale. Sometimes it takes a reminder.

#1) Why should he incur long distance telephone charges?
#2) There are scams out there with telephone numbers that are linked outside of the US and start billing the caller $5/min and up.

Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:15 am

Icy wrote: Bruce wrote: hazetguy wrote: ...... asking for my paypal info. in the person's email, they have their name, business name, and phone number.....
Why not call the guy????

Your paypal info is just your email address. Scammers already have that, ever notice the spam email folder before?

If you don't want to give them your PP email addy, ask for theirs. Then send them a PP money request. I find that whenever they supply that info, they almost always follow through with the sale. Sometimes it takes a reminder.

#1) Why should he incur long distance telephone charges?
#2) There are scams out there with telephone numbers that are linked outside of the US and start billing the caller $5/min and up.
#1, he's willing to pay a 3% paypal fee. 5¢ a minute is nothing by comparison.
#2 don't call the number if it starts with 1-900.

Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:47 am

Bruce wrote: #2 don't call the number if it starts with 1-900.

What if it starts with 1-809? :wink:

Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:00 am

I woke up this morning to two messages from an unregistered user and two related scam notiifications from Everett. I am grateful for the notifications and site efforts to curb scammers. Thanks!

Thu May 08, 2008 8:18 am

I don't think i'll respond to this unregistered user. :shock: Quote:
hi jonathan It(He,She) is to see if still you have the piece in sale to send a money order and say the value to me thanks

Thu May 08, 2008 10:58 am

I just responded to an unregistered user, about an ad.

george toth - kmwsa@hotmail.com

The email bounced.