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Sat May 24, 2008 9:35 am

blacksmith wrote: markd89 wrote: Is a seat stand mat a commonly available item? Who sells those?

Mark
The ones I installed were made by Wolfsburg West, I bought them off of a Samba member. Bus Depot has them as well, you need two sets, the first http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=211863665B goes on the top of the seat stand. The second http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=211867765A go around the side/back of seat pedestals. This second set will work on all year buses, but according to the Bus Depot site "Will not completely cover rear section of passenger side of Westfalia w/swiveling seat.", so if your bus has a swivel, it will look different, but still a major improvement!

Cool, thanks!

Sat May 24, 2008 11:09 am

I looked all over for a tintable "Rustoleum" paint. ACE makes a rust-stop paint that they can tint to your specs. It's an ACE brand so if they don't have the base in stock they can certainly order it for you. I believe it's the same as Rustoleum, but most will not be able to tint the Rustoleum brand because there aren't any tint codes for it. There are for ACE's rust-stop.

Sat May 24, 2008 11:30 am

I tried this already from ACE. I bought a gallon of tintable white and had them tint it to a sky blue. I went home, thinned it and applied it to an area on my '73 Bay. It does not have a shiny gloss finish compared to Rustoleum. I know that the white tint paint is gloss rust paint, but I dont think that their actual color paint that they mix with the white is true rust paint with a gloss. I think that they use just non-oil based enamle paint to give the paint the tint. I even tried it straight out of the can and no gloss.

I bought a can of gloss white Rustoleum and applied it right out of the can to the top of my Bay. I did 1 coat, let it dry and wet sanded it. I couldnt believe how nice and glossy just the wet sanded first coat was... I am debating if I want to thin the paint from here on out or if I want to go straight out of the can... I am looking for trial and error responses...

These pics are paint applied right out of the can AND wetsanded. Still has a nice gloss even after being sanded. This is the first coat

Sun May 25, 2008 4:57 am

zxylon wrote:

What would be a good mixture ratio to thin out the rustoleum paint to spray with? I've got the air and the gun I just would rather do really good prep work and just spray with a good paint then throw on a clear coat or two. I'll be doing a little bit of sand blasting too so there will be a little bit of body work and welding and "straightening" going on. The most expensive part I'll probably be doing is blasting the underside, painting and undercoating it.

Sweet thread!

On thinning, the technique I always use is to thin until it's just barely thicker than water, determined by watching it run off my stir stick, held over it.If you paint in that carport, rinse the walls and ceiling the day before with a good stream of water. Eliminate that dust! Just before you paint, carefully wet the walls and floor, this holds down dust and keeps paint from adhering to the walls. Don't wet the ceiling, water dripping on wet paint, not good. While painting,be careful to not let your air hose contact your vehicle. You might even want to practice that with a dry run. Sort of an "Air Hose Control, 101". Good luck.

Sun May 25, 2008 5:04 am

magnus0328 wrote: I tried this already from ACE. I bought a gallon of tintable white and had them tint it to baby blue. I went home, thinned it and applied it to an area on my '73 Bay. It does not have a shiny gloss finish compared to Rustoleum. I know that the white tint paint is gloss rust paint, but I dont think that their actual color paint that they mix with the white is true rust paint with a gloss. I think that they use just non-oil based enamle paint to give the paint the tint. I even tried it straight out of the can and no gloss.

I bought a can of gloss white Rustoleum and applied it right out of the can to the top of my Bay. I did 1 coat, let it dry and wet sanded it. I couldnt believe how nice and glossy just the wet sanded first coat was... I am debating if I want to thin the paint from here on out or if I want to go straight out of the can... I am looking for trial and error responses...

These pics are paint applied right out of the can AND wetsanded. Still has a nice gloss even after being sanded. This is the first coat

I have no experience with that Ace paint. But if it is not glossy straight, thinning will not make it glossy.

Sun May 25, 2008 5:17 am

I didnt thin it to make it glossy. I thinned it so that I could apply it to the bus... The ACE paint does not have a glossy finish if tinted...

Sun May 25, 2008 5:24 am

I understand that. Thinning it will not help. The gloss comes from a clear that is added to it. Your better bet would be to ask them to add more of that. Then thin.

Sun May 25, 2008 6:01 am

Would mineral spirits be the best thing to thin out paint with?

Sun May 25, 2008 6:08 am

I have already went with another Rustoleum color... Regal Red

zxylon, from what I have read, mineral spirits is the best thinner. It worked fine for me, but I have not tried anything else to compare it to...

Sun May 25, 2008 6:11 am

Cool thanks!