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Sun May 18, 2008 8:27 pm

I thought that it was time to have a place for people to make comments about flippers, and whether or not you mind a group of people in the U.S shipping buses out of the country in the interest of maximizing their profits, and making a living off of it. Also, the flippers can give their side of the story.
The third option was going to be "indifferent" but I forgot to put it into the poll. Does someone know how I can do it?

Sun May 18, 2008 8:40 pm

Flipping is kool. Viva los Flippers'........ :shock:

Sun May 18, 2008 9:14 pm

Moved to off topic.

I can see this one getting locked...

Sun May 18, 2008 9:20 pm

Business is business. You want the Bus, cough up the dough. Otherwise shaddup about it. :wink:

Sun May 18, 2008 9:27 pm

Campy wrote: I thought that it was time to have a place for people to make comments about flippers, and whether or not you mind a group of people in the U.S shipping buses out of the country in the interest of maximizing their profits, and making a living off of it. Also, the flippers can give their side of the story.

all this about vehicles not leaving the country is so narrow minded.
1st of all, the vehicle left Germany, to make a better profit than just selling in Germany.... and it not only sold to the USA, it went to over 49 countries if I recall from reading in a VW newsletter, and the USA market wasnt the 1st or 2nd, try something past 10th

its ok to go to another country and buy a vehicle and take it to the USA, but not the other way around? I dont recall Japanese putting banners on japanese swap meet "dont let OUR VW's leave..." as some people did in the late 80's/early 90's in Sacramento, I still have a pic of that, it was just the funniest thing ever, specially when everybody waiting for japanese buyers to show up and cash out

so if some people selling vehicles to another country that has a strong currency, let it be. HOW do you think lots of parts got to the USA as well as vehicles when the $ was strong against the Dmark? Yes, late 80's, early 90's or anytime before the Euro.
even with the current junk exchange in ANY currency to the $, there are people stil buying vehicles out of the USA and bringing them to the USA

the next thing will be the rest of the world saying; "dont sell or let anything go to USA, they dont like to sell to any other countries...", then I will like to see WTF you will get new mechanical parts, rubber and so on from Europe, Brazil, Mexico, Israel, Turkey, to name a few. I know Im forgeting some small players...(taiwan, china..)

when you VW has 100% USA made parts as replacements, then, consider that BS dont let them leave, til then, just let it be as it has been for over 60 years.

I will like to see some of the big $ properties going to foreclosure and the owner dead set on selling to his neighbor for a lost, instead of a european tourist at last year high market value....

Sun May 18, 2008 10:36 pm

Tram wrote: Business is business. You want the Bus, cough up the dough. Otherwise shaddup about it. :wink:
x1000.
buy it or shut up.
this is a common whine of the "broke-ass"
don't whine about whatcha can't get anyway.

Mon May 19, 2008 2:46 am

Foxx wrote: Tram wrote: Business is business. You want the Bus, cough up the dough. Otherwise shaddup about it. :wink:
x1000.
buy it or shut up.
this is a common whine of the "broke-ass"
don't whine about whatcha can't get anyway.

funny that people believe this and then do a full 180 when it comes to immigration.

business is business. if they work the same amount for less than what you'll take, then tough cookies. Shoulda studied harder in school. they're not "stealing" your job.

Mon May 19, 2008 6:19 am

I sold something here one time and the guy flipped it back onto the Samba with a new ad in less than two hours after receiving it. :mad:

Mon May 19, 2008 6:35 am

JSMskater wrote:
funny that people believe this and then do a full 180 when it comes to immigration.

business is business. if they work the same amount for less than what you'll take, then tough cookies. Shoulda studied harder in school. they're not "stealing" your job.

Agree 100%. If you're willing to work the wage they're getting paid, i'm sure you'd have no problem working right along side them.

Mon May 19, 2008 7:37 am

JSMskater wrote: Foxx wrote: Tram wrote: Business is business. You want the Bus, cough up the dough. Otherwise shaddup about it. :wink:
x1000.
buy it or shut up.
this is a common whine of the "broke-ass"
don't whine about whatcha can't get anyway.

funny that people believe this and then do a full 180 when it comes to immigration.

business is business. if they work the same amount for less than what you'll take, then tough cookies. Shoulda studied harder in school. they're not "stealing" your job. I doubt that very many people here have a problem with immigration. What they have a problem with is ILLEGAL immigration. There is a difference, princess.

Mon May 19, 2008 8:31 am

There are multiple types of flippers.

1. overseas flippers
2. buy and sell for more
3. buy a project, finish it, sell it

I do not like for the rust-free US Buses to go to the UK. The reason they don't have any is because they live in a bad spot for keeping a car rust free. The reason we have them is because of our geographic location, and I'm thankful for that.

The buy and instantly sell thing for more money is obviously greedy and very selfish.

The buy and fix is someone that is working hard.

Since the poll was about overseas I voted yes.

Mon May 19, 2008 9:11 am

Eaallred wrote: JSMskater wrote:
funny that people believe this and then do a full 180 when it comes to immigration.

business is business. if they work the same amount for less than what you'll take, then tough cookies. Shoulda studied harder in school. they're not "stealing" your job.

Agree 100%. If you're willing to work the wage they're getting paid, i'm sure you'd have no problem working right along side them.

That depends upon whether you're talking about real immigrants or people who sneak in illegally. We're a country based on immigration, BUT we're also a country based upon obedience to the law. Apples and oranges.

The legal immigrant is akin to the Bus that is sold overseas with title and documents. The illegal is akin to the Bus that is stolen and sold overseas illegally. Anyone who STEALS another person's Bus for profit should be shot. Other than that, business is business. He who hands over the cash first, wins. Period.

I don't even agree with Ian's point about rust. It's bogus. First, once somebody buys a Bus, it's their Bus. Butt out.

Second, these Buses in the UK are hardly daily drivers in inclement weather and salt at this point. Plus, there are compounds you can use today that really WILL "rust proof" a vehicle that weren't available 10, 20, 40 years ago.

Mon May 19, 2008 10:41 am

Ian wrote:

The buy and instantly sell thing for more money is obviously greedy and very selfish.

:lol: :lol: It's a freaking car! Greedy and selfish? Do you work for a company that makes any type of profit? Those greedy selfish bastards! Give me a break.

Mon May 19, 2008 10:52 am

yeah I don't know...I'd really like to have a diesel vanagon single cab imported from Germany though...
hope that doesn't piss off anyone over there too bad...
:twisted:

Mon May 19, 2008 10:58 am

Ian wrote: I do not like for the rust-free US Buses to go to the UK. The reason they don't have any is because they live in a bad spot for keeping a car rust free. The reason we have them is because of our geographic location, and I'm thankful for that.
No, it's because the dollar has very little value making US prices a bargain.
Ian wrote: The buy and instantly sell thing for more money is obviously greedy and very selfish. Ever heard of Capitalism?
Ian wrote: The buy and fix is someone that is working hard. You have to work hard to fix something?

Mon May 19, 2008 6:10 pm

notchback wrote: JSMskater wrote: Foxx wrote: Tram wrote: Business is business. You want the Bus, cough up the dough. Otherwise shaddup about it. :wink:
x1000.
buy it or shut up.
this is a common whine of the "broke-ass"
don't whine about whatcha can't get anyway.

funny that people believe this and then do a full 180 when it comes to immigration.

business is business. if they work the same amount for less than what you'll take, then tough cookies. Shoulda studied harder in school. they're not "stealing" your job. I doubt that very many people here have a problem with immigration. What they have a problem with is ILLEGAL immigration. There is a difference, princess.

Agreed , No problem haveing more taxpayers . It allright if they play by the same rules we play buy.

I have not heard in this discusion the buy( find ) a car and cut up a sell for parts just because there is more money in parts than the car together. I for one dont think it is cool at all to do so . I understand if a car is unfixable wrecked or twisted pan, etc. but i have seen a few fixable cars get cut up for no reason but profit........

Tue May 20, 2008 7:09 am

1) How in the hell did illegal immigrants get brought into this?

2) Don't get pissed off because someone else got a good deal and you didn't.

3) Eat more beef.

Tue May 20, 2008 7:12 am

volkswagenut wrote:

I have not heard in this discusion the buy( find ) a car and cut up and sell for parts just because there is more money in parts than the car together. I for one dont think it is cool at all to do so . I understand if a car is unfixable wrecked or twisted pan, etc. but i have seen a few fixable cars get cut up for no reason but profit........

I agree. To cut up a piece of history to make a better proffit doesn't seem right to me but, then again, I don't see a problem with "flipping" a vehicle. You bought it. Do what you want with it. That being said, I guess its not right to judge. I just hope we don't loose our wonderful little cars to greed. I can at least guaranty mine isn't going anywhere.

Tue May 20, 2008 7:22 am

volkswagenut wrote:
I have not heard in this discusion the buy( find ) a car and cut up a sell for parts just because there is more money in parts than the car together. I for one dont think it is cool at all to do so . I understand if a car is unfixable wrecked or twisted pan, etc. but i have seen a few fixable cars get cut up for no reason but profit........

But if one junked car can get 5 others back on the road then you have a net gain. The bottom line is the owner can do whatever he/she wants with what legally belongs to them. Flip, cut up, crush, restore, mod, or whatever.

Tue May 20, 2008 8:37 am

i never buy a bus or car with the intent to flip it, that said since i sold my beloved 67 RS/SS i had for 12 years, ive been through roughly 20 cars, i buy one at a time, fix what is wrong with it and get a little profit back......most of the time, ive got a couple of good deals and pass it on without gouging. sending cars overseas is nothing new to me since ive wathched people from the hood send cars to Japan since i was a little kid. boils down to owner ship, if some one wants flip that is on them and it can create a backlash.......ask me about the stupid peace bus. but i have gotten calls from across the pond but i think i have this thing about Europeans in general. nice cool guys most of the time but i am biased against them. they are only worth what some one will buy them for. so gouge away folks it's all gravy! im not aginst flippers, just dont bullshit anyone who is giving a good deal under false pretense.