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Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:54 pm

johnshenry wrote: Rich's 50 wrote: I had a good time and it was nice seeing old friend and i also made some new ones. Nice meeting you Johnhenry........

Nice meeting you too Rich, and all of the other faces, new and old. The events are great, but talking with other enthusiasts face to face is always the best part (with a $20 25hp crank pulley at the swaps coming in 2nd or 3rd.....).

Great weekend, not quite home yet, stuck in Chicago due to weather....

{ and Bob "yeah, but don't smack me as hard" 53Oval too :wink: )

Were you guys 'monkeying' around again? :wink: As always, nice talking with you John.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:10 pm

:D This is a tough crowd..............I thought that you guys would really want to see this car, so I posted it here( Lord knows most of you don't hang out on the Cal Look Forums). This car will be all over the planet when the magazines print up the pictures and story anyway. John, you and Jim can slap your own monkey. :D

Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:48 pm

"Tough crowd, tough crowd, I tell ya. I don't get no respect, no respect at all.......My girlfriend called and said,'Come over......nobody's home.' I went over. Nobody was home!"

Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:52 pm

56vwrag wrote: [quote="johnshenry"

thats MINE!! :D :D[/quote]

:shock: HEY Mister, Your Rear axle is Busted!!!! :o

Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:11 pm

r39o wrote: That car DID stand out. Very well done, not my taste, though. I know just how much work and more goes into something like that. You really have to love it to have it. Not just money gets you a car like that.

Many, many others stood out too. Like the Type3 with the Subaru motor, for example. That is a practical conversion many of us can live with (and not break the piggy bank.)

I was overwhelmed by all the cars. I got dazed after a while too. I was on a tight schedule and had to leave.

Where was Uncle Bob's car???????

It's been there.......done that. I did drive it down to the host hotel for a couple of hours.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:18 pm

I heard it was down at the shop receiving the 'German look' treatment! :lol: (Bob, you started a new term--German look)

Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:29 pm

Splitdog wrote: I heard it was down at the shop receiving the 'German look' treatment! :lol: (Bob, you started a new term--German look)

Not me................ :wink: How about "tuner-look" (like AMG)?

http://books.google.com/books?id=cBnLg-jA1JAC&...&hl=en :

Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:55 pm

Kevin Maddock wrote: Why is this late model even being discussed in the pre 53 forum anyway :roll:

That early performance engine is nuts, looks a bit of a mess mind you with the centrally mounted aircleaner and tubes.

Not an air cleaner Kevin. :wink: It's an oil tank. That motor is a 'dry' sump.

Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:46 am

53 0val wrote: Kevin Maddock wrote: Why is this late model even being discussed in the pre 53 forum anyway :roll:

That early performance engine is nuts, looks a bit of a mess mind you with the centrally mounted aircleaner and tubes.

Not an air cleaner Kevin. :wink: It's an oil tank. That motor is a 'dry' sump.

WOWWW!!! That's a sehr Selten Obenliegende-Doppelkaffeetöpfe Motor?

I don't think that can be a true dry sump. :wink:

Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:43 am

I think you have to separate out the "what" from the "why" (relative to why he would do that to a fat chick, Nova, split, etc).

I looked over the car a couple times and spoke to the owner. What screams at me is "engineering". The true engineering that when into this car is amazing. The engine systems, monitoring, plumbing, flip down, inverted parcel shelf, insulation, etc didn't just get cobbled together and made up as they went along; they were clearly planned from every angle. Extra "stealth" louvers are found in the engine lid behind the lic. plate.

The other element is the attention to detail. Look at any angle, any nook and cranny (at least the ones I did) and it is perfection. The underside of the hood is as perfect as the doors. All of the hardware is carefully matched, polished and designed. You get a total sense of uniformity when you look at the car, end to end. Textures, materials, colors.

That is the "what"

The "why", as to why would you do this to a fat chick, or a split, or a Nova or a toaster, probably only the owner knows. Clearly he accepted a challenge to design and engineer something that had never been seen or done before, at least not in the VW world. Worth it? Depends on who you ask. To him, obviously it was or he wouldn't have done it. Will he ever get his money back, I doubt it. But I doubt he did it for that reason.

Set a new standard? In the detail department, and perhaps the engineering department (relative to custom VWs in which I really have no interest), yes. That level of detail could be applied to bone stock split as well, and create some real wow factor. I have only seen a few cars come close. I'd have to lay on my back and crawl around under with a flashlight to set a real verdict.

It was definitely a huge attention getter at the Classic. Talking to the owner I got a sense of a real engineer, who had given lots of thought and science to things before starting. I have a lot of respect for that. Engineering is an aspect of restos/builds that doesn't really come into play that much in the stock purist world. Other than designing some new tool to cut or dolly something back, there isn't that much. At least relative to the car itself.

For those splits, all of the "engineering" was done some 60+ years ago in Wolfsburg..

Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:37 pm

:roll:

Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:08 pm

Thanks for the pictures, it looked like a cool show :)

To all the haters ...

Grow up! Your sh!t *still* stinks and your "restored" VW is no "better" than a custom regardless of which forum discusses it.

Thanks again for the thread and the report :)

Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:26 pm

El Magnificante wrote: Thanks for the pictures, it looked like a cool show :)

To all the haters ...

Grow up! Your sh!t *still* stinks and your "restored" VW is no "better" than a custom regardless of which forum discusses it.

Thanks again for the thread and the report :)

In a couple of months this car will be pictured everywhere in the car world, then we'll see what "real" car people think.............. :wink:

(Stock guy's shit stinks like old VW headliners.)

Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:10 pm

53 0val wrote: (Stock guy's shit stinks like old VW headliners.)

I LOVE that smell.. sickly sweet smell of Vintage Split Window Headliner Glue......Mmmmmmm.. its the best!! I go sit in my Split and breath it in.

Beats the hell out of the stink of chemically treated leather on that MOMO steering wheel.

I love ya Bob.. :) and your right... I dont get it! :)

Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:04 am

Well, after all the discussion of the black '68, I was wondering if anyone snapped any pictures of it? I'm looking into further information before magazine features come out.

Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:22 pm

go a couple of pages back and there are a couple.
he is local to me so i'm sure i could find more if need be on our local site
you looking for anything in particular?

Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:45 am

Yeah, i saw those few pics. I meant full car and interior pics, and anything of interest or specific details.

Best would be a oldbug style pic montage, but thats asking a bit much.. If he's on another canadian forum or something, and you had a link, that'd be great too. I'm just looking for any knowledge and pictures of it.