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Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:52 pm

Notchback is redundant.

Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:53 pm

notchback wrote: new page
How do you know how to do that? :?

Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:55 pm

iowegian wrote: notchback wrote: new page
How do you know how to do that? :?

Not sure he does. :?

Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:55 pm

iowegian wrote: notchback wrote: new page
How do you know how to do that? :?

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Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:02 pm

56ovalbug wrote: iowegian wrote: notchback wrote: new page
How do you know how to do that? :?

Each full page has 20 replies.

No, no no no no no no no no no.....

When you type "new page" It just happens.

Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:17 pm

Mark Harney isn't into Diesels so much...............

Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:47 am

I learned that dude couldn't keep it up for Rebecca Beste (RIP).

Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:41 am

Something about roofing tar. :?

Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:58 am

Fish wrote: Something about roofing tar. :?

Probably this:

VW at the factory used tar to glue the tar paper, styrofoam, tar paper, pan sound deadening insulation used in the 1960-70s. When we have pulled up this insulation the pan has little or no rust under this tar or just around it. So have used a thin coating of tar on the pans to keep down future rust. We also have used tar on all our VWs in the battery area, along with cut down plastic battery boxes to help keep the battery acid away from the sheetmetal. Tar is handy in the bus and KGs to glue down strips made out of folded tar paper like the factory ones to hold the battery off the sheet metal and promote drying of any water that gets under there. Have done same for under bus gas tanks, to prevent rust in the areas the tank seats against the body. The original buffer material there sometimes absorbed water and caused rust. In the 1970s VW added a sound deadening material of thick tar paper kind of stuff that was glued with tar onto the inside of the door sheet metal. Have thinned down tar with oil and used it to rust proof inside of draining rocker panels in bus and KG. Wish just seals would do the trick!! When moving up from dry central Texas, both the 1963 SC and KG with rust free body frames (the KG even had new paint & seals), both began to leak badly when exposed to PNW wet weather. Took the KG to a local glass shop to have sealant installed and that solved that. Tried several hardware store sealants on the truck and only tar worked for more than a few months. Take another look when you remove the next OG seal. The original sealant VW used stuck to the seal better than the paint. Thusly you see little to no sealant stuck on the body of the VW when you remove an old seal. If you do not closely look at the seal itself, where it seats against the body, you would think no sealant was used. We have seen this several times when returning old VWs to the road from decades long slumber. Plus as we posted before take a look at the "Damage Numbers" manual, plus any Workshop Manual, and even the "Look, Listen, Learn" books. They all say to used a VW sealant. A few years ago we had to remove a windshield due to rock almost going through the glass. The tar for the most part stayed stuck to the seal, just like the VW original sealant. Was able to lightly tar the body frame, and glass groove, and reuse the seal on the new glass. Now about 6 years later that has not leaked, nor has the other windshield in the same bus that has been in there for about ten years with tar. No really preferred brand through we use Henry's. Just as long as one uses a non-fibered type. Laugh all you like, but this is very a sneeky problem in type 1 & 3 VWs. Which causes the lower door hinge screws to be rusted in place where the uppers are still rust free, and the heater channels, and floor pans to rust out from the inside! Especially sooner in wetter areas of the world. Still unconvinced that seals do not keep leak free for more than six months by themselfs? Try this then. With a short piece of string or thread to act as a plumb bob. Find the drain hole/s of the windshield near the lower corners. You might need a small mirror if you are not as limber as you used to be. Find the spots directly under these drains, and tape in these places your standard 8 x 11 sheet of paper. Marking across the paper with non-permanant felt tip pen really shows the water drippage well. Then daily drive and do not garage, through a week or two of rain, to see what happens to the paper....All we can say is that both are: BLACK and SEAL WELL. They do not seperate like hardware store silicon sealant will do from the body, causing leakage. Roofing tar when used on seals not near any headliner material works well, and has these added benefits. It would reseal when reheated by sunlight, if you really went all out Bajaing. Repels rust for a couple inches around it. As far as what VW uses now we have no idea. They might not even use seals today. In the 1980s or perhaps earlier auto manufactures started kind of caulk/gluing windshields into place. We just know from all the original VW literature from the early 1950s thru the mid 1980s that seals were sealed with a sealant. Plus with our experience at most 3-6 months new seals up here start to leak. Have the rust damged VW to deal with and have seen others with rust free VW from places like CA bring them up and in five or so year have lots of rust problems due to water leaking seals because of no sealant. As we have said before and will say many times again, if tar really bothers you. Then use a sealant designed for this purpose from an auto body supply shop. Either way you are doing your VW a favor, and especially for the type 1 & 3 VW where the water entering is easily hidden from the owner till it is too late. At least with the pre-1968 Buses when it leaks it soon ends up all over the dash, package tray, and floor mat. Quite noticable to the owner…it has been used as a sealant for several millennia. Plus VW used it in several places in the type 1s, with added rust repeling in those areas. Figured to try it after several other types of hardware stuff we thought would seal, and did not work. Small areas of rust had just started on the frame from water getting in under the rubber during these tries. Even with sanding primer and painting anytime rust was found to try to keep sealed out from the steel. Did also try 3M body sealant, but that made installing the glass and seal a sticky nightmare to install. Did think of trying to applying the 3M stuff after the seal/glass was in place, but with the 1955-67 Bus overhang just above it would have been a real problem getting sealant in the top. Added bonus with a roofing tar was it acts as a lubricant.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:48 pm

Anything can be fixed. How much money do you have?

Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:50 pm

Don't buy a car sight unseen, or "a rust free car from Florduh"

Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:21 pm

Do not click on any link with the word "Tubgirl" in the URL.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:31 pm

Major Woody wrote: Do not click on any link with the word "Tubgirl" in the URL.

Do not click on any link from Roach, Skim, or NCN, even if they are holding a gun to your head. You can click on a link from RichFiddy but it will only be a picture of that skank Christina Mendoza.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:08 pm

VWMAN66 wrote: ...my dad orderd a trans axle that a gouy ows us becaouse we gave him tow bay windows...i dont know if the trans axle is good but its somthing to roll it on....and i dont know when it will be here... so if ill have time i will start cleaning out corn bread....and i scratcht some paint off it today and theres like a baby blue dove blue under the yelow and red... so ill get to it if i can... thannks.. -keysar

I've discovered that our educational institutions are a great failure.
Also, some folks just don't mind if they come off looking a bit retarded.

Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:22 am

In general the vw crowd is made up of good people.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:53 pm

Vanhag wrote: vwbusride wrote: I learned that anything or anybody can be OWNED.

Not true.

True

Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:55 pm

That driving on 3 cylinders from Atlanta to New York just to prove you can just proves you're an idiot.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:44 pm

I have learned that, 'it has not, has never been, nor will ever be "Hammer Time."'

And that the words, "The PO thought it would be cool to", will never be followed by anything good.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:49 pm

" as far as i know" is a loophole.

Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:04 pm

I still don't know why it's called common sense as it's so rare.