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Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:05 am

The problem is I have a brosal H30/31 and I believe it to be junk. What I have is fresh rebuilt stock 1600 DP, single carb, New 009 Dizzy.

Keeping in mind mileage is a factor

What carb should I use If I replace the Brosal?

Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:11 pm

I don't like the H30 much myself, sometimes they run better than others though.

Well, the 30PICT-1 fits that same adapter that your H30 sits on and works well, I run one on the 1600DP in my Baja bug. Its a much much simpler carburetor than the H30. The new EMPI ones they sell nowhave an issue with the vacuum routing but that only affects vacuum-advance distributors, with an 009 that would be a non-issue. ( http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=278191 ) A good used Bocar 30PICT-1 or a German 1967-style version would be my own personal first choices.

Of course, one of the best combinations you can put on a DP is a later style 34PICT-3 and an SVDA (single vacuum advance plus centrifugal advance) distributor.

Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:03 pm

I run a 30pict on my 1600dp with 87mm jugs, 100 Engle cam, 009 dizzy with Petronic set-up on my Manx 2. I have very little "dead spot", it performs really well and gets good mileage. My buggy has only a 6 gallon tank. I have a VDO speedo and it's dialed in very acurate. I set my trip meter every fill up and I get between 27 and 30 mpg every time.
I would love to have a set of Kadrons or baby dells. Webers seem a little too much bother to tune in for me.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:55 am

Going with a 30 PICT3 to break in engine, then thought about a progressive.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:26 am

Please think again before you try a progressive. Not worth the time and effort to try to get them to run smoothly and give you decent fuel economy. I'd much rather get a set of dual carbs if I was going away from a stock one.

A 30PICT-3, that's an OK choice, better than the H30 or a 30PICT-2... but it won't work with the carb adapter unless you also change the accelerator pump linkage over from the H30 carb.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:52 am

the 30 PICT 3 did fit with the adapter and I used the spacer for a Alternator conversion. Would that be OK. I have been hard pressed to get away from the 30 PICT3 cause it got me 37 mpg on rolling hills and twisties. I will stay with it. Any ideas on how much of a sacrafice there is on a progressive.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:08 am

I was getting like, 10-12 MPG out of the Solex SEIE progressive that came with my first Baja bug. That carb was Solex's version of the Weber progressive - a carb that was not designed for nor is very suitable for the aircooled VW engine.

I'm surprised your carb fit, but then again, I don't know how you got it all combined together with the extra spacer in there too. I do know for a fact that if you just try to use the adapter right onto 30PICT-3, the linkage hits it, as it's too close on the 30PICT-3. You can see how much further away the linkage sits on the H30.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:15 am

The space is a riser. It is used to move a carb up on a single port w an alternator for clearance between the accelrator arm and alternator. It just simple raises the carb straight up from the original mounting point.
I will take a pic tonight when I get home.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:17 am

Oh I know what that spacer is, I've just never seen it used in conjunction with the 30/34mm carburetor adapter before.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:20 am

Will it work???? I have not tried running the engine just mounting.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:32 am

I would think it would work OK as long as where the flanges all bolt together, the seals are smooth and not causing any disruption in the airflow. Using an air cleaner like a stock one, that has the correct amount of "headroom" over the carb, may also help in how it runs. Maybe more so on the 30PICT-3, which comes with a tiny main jet combined with a couple of larger power fuel (high speed enrichment) jets on the top half of the carb.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:59 am

I am running a louvered chrome cleaner about 2 1/2" tall from a company I will not mention.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:35 pm

Ah, one of those. Not much of a fan of those, I run a 1966 air cleaner on my baja, which allows me to use a 25mm preheat hose as well.

Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:19 pm

Only drive in summer time. Here in Indiana 90 deg. Not much need for choke or preheat air.

Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:30 am

Yeah, I figured as much. Still, you can get carb icing any time of the year.

Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:56 pm

OK the 30is on. It will not Idle. It will run for about 10 seconds and then die unless you baby it and then it will evenually die. Checked timing TDC dizzy ok, Fireing order Ok New Manifold boots and tight, Intake manifold new gaskets and tight all ok. Boiled Carb and reassembled and every thing tight. It will fire up easily. symptom stayed the same no change. What have I missed????? :?: :?: :?:

Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:38 pm

Do both of these carbs have the idle fuel shutoff solenoid? If so, it may be shot or dirty...or did you forget to wire it? #-o

Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:02 am

the solex 30 pict 3 worked fine on my 1500 single port last year without the solenoid connected. It is damaged elec. tab broken off. Tried to get a new one but havent been able to. The brosal was connected and working.

Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:12 am

I have a 34 PICT-3 and a 009 and I found this page.
http://www.aircooledtech.com/34pict3_modification
I have not got mine running yet, but I plan on doing it. This might be the same problem you are having.