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Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:09 pm

Well did a type 34 wagon ever get built by anyone anywhere?

Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:24 pm

Dirty66 wrote: Well did a type 34 wagon ever get built by anyone anywhere?

do you mean a custom one? there was never a factory version that I've ever heard of....

Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:26 pm

Dirty66 wrote: Well did a type 34 wagon ever get built by anyone anywhere?

I have not seen a customized Type 34 wagon, but a rendition thereof is available:

Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:30 pm

yeah I know they didn't make one stock and I was looking for pics in old post and someone had said that a guy in belgium or something was making one.

Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:45 pm

Another one:

Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:51 pm

Neither one would go far- they forgot the COOLING AIR INTAKES!!!

Oh, wait... maybe they're racecars.

Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:39 pm

Tram wrote: Neither one would go far- they forgot the COOLING AIR INTAKES!!!

Oh, wait... maybe they're racecars.

Excellent observation, Tram!

I guess the one who made those renditions must reconsider his designs to incorporate the cooling air intakes!

Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:40 pm

Maybe its Water cooled!

Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:45 pm

If anyone ever gets serious about building one I would suggest looking into adapting an early '60s Valiant or Dart wagon rear roof section. Much closer to Ghia's design sensibility than, say, a Squareback. There was still a real design connection between Ghia and Chrysler into the '60s.

Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:16 pm

If I do another Type 34, then next car will be a wagon. Sunroof, ribbed roof like a Nomad, Type 4 engine, 5 speed, lowered a bit, disk brakes. Without having much concern for originality, the sky's the limit, really.

As for cooling, vent the fenders like a Squareback, vent the D pillars, and vent the rear hatch if possible, too.

The rear hatch has been the main sticking point for me. I still haven't found the exact effect I'm looking for using existing metal from another make/model of car.

I don't much like the conceptual drawings I've seen so far, but I do hope someone builds one.

-Greg

Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:24 pm

Or put a Wasserboxer in it.

Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:29 pm

I've been thinking very hard about doing a 34 wagon, with all the best stuff- FI Automatic, A/C, sunroof.

But then, I can only hack up so many VWs so that one will be left to someone else.

Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:32 pm

Yeah the dart wagon back would be sweet with the curved rear corners and maybe a flip down tailgate with the glass going up or maybe rolling down into the tailgate if possible

Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:26 am

Tram wrote: Neither one would go far- they forgot the COOLING AIR INTAKES!!!

Oh, wait... maybe they're racecars.

Box fan!

Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:18 am

But creating a Type 34 wagon involves a lot of guts! It is a rare vee-dub; henceforth, is it worth doing so?

Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:24 am

Sorry I know this isn't a type 34 wagon, but try to see this, a factory made prototype Fasty Type 34:

Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:58 am

t3kg wrote: If anyone ever gets serious about building one I would suggest looking into adapting an early '60s Valiant or Dart wagon rear roof section. Much closer to Ghia's design sensibility than, say, a Squareback. There was still a real design connection between Ghia and Chrysler into the '60s.

You are absolutely right. Ghia worked closely with Virgil Exner in the late 50's and early 60's and there are a lot of similarities between his Chrysler work and what Ghia was putting out as well.

Since Exner lost most of his power at Chrysler after the disastrous 61/62 years, check the big Dart (60-61) or the 61 Fury. They're on a different scale than the T34, of course. There's a picture of the 61 Valiant wagon about 2/3 down the page http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1960-1962-plymouth-valiant5.htm Note that compact Mopar wagons don't have the rear window roll into the roof - that was a GM feature; they roll into the tailgate.

This Fiat prototype is so much like the Type 14 Ghia and the Chrysler D'Elegance show car it's hard to say they weren't evolutions of the same design: http://bringatrailer.com/2008/06/29/rare-vignale-designed-prototype-1953-fiat-1100/

Sorry to ramble; before air cooled VW's, I was/am a Mopar fanatic. One of my first cars was a 1960 Valiant, which was not a Plymouth.

Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:07 am

DONGKG wrote: But creating a Type 34 wagon involves a lot of guts! It is a rare vee-dub; henceforth, is it worth doing so?

it's a lot better project for a rusty shell or bondo queen than dumping it or making a funny car, in my opinion. I always like seeing what "might have been" when it's done in a real effort to continue the original design intent, or to recreate a lost prototype.

Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:14 am

Tram wrote: I've been thinking very hard about doing a 34 wagon, with all the best stuff- FI Automatic, A/C, sunroof.

But then, I can only hack up so many VWs so that one will be left to someone else.

Remember well have extra parts left over :wink: And I still have the extra 65 front clip.

Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am

notchboy wrote: Tram wrote: I've been thinking very hard about doing a 34 wagon, with all the best stuff- FI Automatic, A/C, sunroof.

But then, I can only hack up so many VWs so that one will be left to someone else.

Remember well have extra parts left over :wink: And I still have the extra 65 front clip.

NO NO NO!!! DON'T TEMPT ME MAN!!! :shock: :lol:

I'm thinking 4 door limo? :twisted: