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Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:51 pm

I just ordered a bender beading set from ISP and of course, it only comes in black. My fastback is yellow and I am afraid black wont look good against the yellow.

Does anyone have a photo of a yellow car with the black fender beading? I was thinking of painting it to match but was not sure how well the paint would stick.

Any suggestions?

Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:56 pm

you'd have to scuff it with scotch brite(probably the gray)and then add a flex adhesion additive to the paint.it would probably not last a great number of years.fender beading gets painted all the time,amount of use/abuse will play a major roll in it all.

Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:47 pm

I was thining the same thing. I want to paint my beading, and thought a flex agent would be the way to go. If only some place would make custom colored beading....

sighs.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:00 am

How well does your window rubber look next to the yellow paint? How well do the tires look next to the yellow paint? See what i'm getting at here? You already have black parts next to your yellow paint.
If you paint the beading, it may start to flake and that wouldn't look good next to any color paint. I'd either leave it black or continue to search for colored beading.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:20 am

J C WHITNEY catalog,

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/Pr-p_Pr...nder+welts

Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:22 am

or you could weld the fenders smooth and not have to worry about it....

Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:29 am

blankmange wrote: or you could weld the fenders smooth and not have to worry about it....

I was thinking about this the other night, as I sat staring at my square in pieces.

Has anyone on here actually done this? I'd love to hear how, how much, how long, and see pics of how it turned out!

Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:31 am

and another question I wanted to ask:

Has anyone bought generic beading, and ran it flush with the body to fender lines, so that none shows over the fender? Then it would be very hard to notice the color and such, but probably tedious to keep lined up. Glue to hold while mounting maybe?

Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:50 am

My beige 67 square was resprayed and the painted fender beading looked fine! My light blue 69 square was resprayed and reassembled using repop black fender bead! You can do it either way, but I like the contrasting colors of fender beading to paint! I wouldn't even think about welding MY fenders onto the body!

Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:59 am

my notch speedster has no fender beading... the down side is, if you ever get hit, well...

Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:35 pm

vwfye wrote: my notch speedster has no fender beading... the down side is, if you ever get hit, well...

What?? Whats the downside??

Im only half kidding. I understand that beading keeps dust and water away from the inside panels and body, and also takes away body squeek from metal on metal, giving a little flex to the fenders against the body.

Did you mean if you weld the fenders on? Then of course I can see why that would be an issue if you got tagged.

Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:38 pm

Critter1 wrote: How well does your window rubber look next to the yellow paint? How well do the tires look next to the yellow paint? See what i'm getting at here? You already have black parts next to your yellow paint.
If you paint the beading, it may start to flake and that wouldn't look good next to any color paint. I'd either leave it black or continue to search for colored beading.

Xs 2. Lots of black on the car anyway. Why chance it?

Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:04 pm

Man, these threads totally stir up doubts on my original decisions.

grrr

Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:30 pm

Critter1 wrote: How well does your window rubber look next to the yellow paint? How well do the tires look next to the yellow paint? See what i'm getting at here? You already have black parts next to your yellow paint.
If you paint the beading, it may start to flake and that wouldn't look good next to any color paint. I'd either leave it black or continue to search for colored beading.

I see what you are saying. I just didn't know how the "outline" effect created by the beading would look. I think I will try it black first. If I don't like that I can always go back and repaint it. I am glad my old beading came off in one piece so I can use it as a template. This stuff is going to require a lot of cuts and notches all over.

Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:21 am

Currently both of my Notches are running without the beading. I haven't noticed any additional squeeking from not having the beading in place, but the cars also look unfinished. I had thought about using seam sealer, to fill the gaps, then paint it all at the same time for a smooth clean look. The only problem(s) with that are, 1 I painted the 71 in pieces/sections, so I could get everything painted (inside and out to keep rust at bay), and 2, if I ever had to remove a panel, it might not come off too easy. :roll:

I suppose, if you had the back side of all the panels prepped and painted, you could assemble it, and seam seal it at that time, finishing the seam sealer when you did the outside body prep. I may do this in a year or so, when I chase the remaining ripples out of the body work, that I didn't do last summer. I'm waiting to see what's going to come back and haunt me with all the rust repair I did first (on the 71).

On another note, I did paint the beading on my wife's car, as it was already 18 years old, and most of the oils had gassed off. That and it was looking a little tired from 18 years of polishing. I didn't add a flex agent to it either. My paint supplier says that if it's already in position (it was), you don't need it, but if you're installing it (plastic parts) the flex agent is only good for 30 days, then it turns hard. :shock: Just something else to think about. :wink:

Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:22 am

I've used the black fender beading and painted it with a flex agent. Paint with a flex agent, done right, is basically what they call "vinyl dye". Prep is key. You'll need to clean the beading with dishsoap and water, and lightly scuff it with a Scotchbrite pad first. Handle it with surgical gloves while prepping and during painting- any finger oil is the devil. Dishsoap works best as it cuts oil, and doesn't leave a residue like Super Clean, for example. Rinse well, and let it dry completely.

Paint your pre- cut and previously test- fitted, cleaned/ prepped beading off the car- a detail gun works great. Let the vinyl dye paint dry a day or two in the sun. Install it to your painted car.

It might interest you to know that VW started doing the exact same thing on their later T3s: this is why if you sand or scuff the beading, the outer colour layer goes away and the black shows through. Try it on a piece of original beading. :)

I believe the earlier ones might have been a solid colour.

Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:04 pm

Yellow Car
Black Beading

that will compliment all the other rubber on the car

i say put it on
or match the color of your car and add some flex
and youd be good to go as well