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Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:05 am

mine has the 62 style setup under rear seat.#5168641

Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:08 am

My Aug. '62 built '63 has the earlier style oblong heater outlets. I'm having the darndest time trying to find this style kick panels to replace mine that some fool mounted huge speakers through :x !

Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:50 am

glutamodo wrote: I know that the 1962 setup carried over a little ways into 1963, with two small oval outlets near the tunnel fed from a single hose coming off the heater pipe next to the battery.

My July '62 has that setup, including the small outlets (more like slits than ovals) in the kickboards, which I have not seen available anywhere for sale.

Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:55 am

glutamodo wrote: Well, here's one thing I have question on - what type of heater vents do you have under the bak seat. I ask becaue I know that the 1962 setup carried over a little ways into 1963, with two small oval outlets near the tunnel fed from a single hose coming off the heater pipe next to the battery. Then they changed to two large round heater outlets, each going to a separate Y pipe left and right and hand-operated open/close flaps on them, nearer the doors, on the kick panels.
My 63 has the round, Y channels with the open/close flaps (that I recently found at a savage yard!!)

Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:06 am

JinxedSydney wrote: My 63 has the round, Y channels with the open/close flaps (that I recently found at a savage yard!!)

Those savage yards are darn dangerous places to go to. :D

Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:41 pm

I just checked mine and it has the Y type tube with the manual flaps. Wierd.

Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:51 pm

My 63 also has the Y channels with the manual flaps

Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:03 pm

jssweatt wrote: My 63 also has the Y channels with the manual flaps

Do you know when your build date was? Going by my VIN # 4932943, it should put it by the end of Sept. '62.

Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:05 pm

About those heater outlets - I thought this was one of those things not listed in Progressive Refinements - I know it's not in the Car of the Century book, which erroneously says the dual outlets with levers started in 1962. I was sure I'd looked in PR for this before and couldn't find it. Maybe I just didn't dig far enough because I just found it. ( I'm surprised Bill didn't look it up, it's his book after all! ) Anyway the change for the heater outlets happened 15 DEC 62, chassis number 5199980 for sedans.

Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:23 pm

so does that mean my car is not a '62 then even though the VIN seems to fall into Sept. '62?

Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:33 pm

That's a mid-year change. The VIN number that started model year 1963 was 4846836

Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:54 am

HerrrKafer wrote: That was a mid-Dec '62 change. I don't have access to any references right now, but I'm thinking it's ... around VIN 5200000. glutamodo wrote: Anyway the change for the heater outlets happened 15 DEC 62, chassis number 5199980 for sedans.
:shock: :shock: :lol: I think I need to take a break from this stuff for awhile.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:07 am

airkewld63 wrote: Do you know when your build date was? Going by my VIN # 4932943, it should put it by the end of Sept. '62.

Mine was built in Mar 63 according to the VIN number (5476787)

Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:56 am

airkewld63 wrote: so does that mean my car is not a '62 then even though the VIN seems to fall into Sept. '62?

If your car was built in September of '62, then it's a 1963 model. By this time, model years started in August of the prior year. For example, a car built in August '63 would be a '64 model.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:23 am

jssweatt, Quote: Mine was built in Mar 63 according to the VIN number (5476787
Looks like your 63 was built in the same month/year as my 63 as the VIN numbers are only 82,886 apart.
I’m always looking for the brother/sister of my 1963, and so far your 63 is the closest.
Which, according to the Birth Certificate, was built May 24th 1963, left the factory on
May 30th 1963 and arrived at Oliver Imported Cars in Berkeley California a few weeks later.
It was purchased by the original owner in August of 1963.
I know it sounds dim-witted but, I just think it’s interesting that 45 years ago, these two bugs
could have been sitting together in the same VW factory parking lot waiting to be shipped.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:48 am

67 Florida Deluxe wrote: airkewld63 wrote: so does that mean my car is not a '62 then even though the VIN seems to fall into Sept. '62?

If your car was built in September of '62, then it's a 1963 model. By this time, model years started in August of the prior year. For example, a car built in August '63 would be a '64 model.

yeah, I understand that. It is just so confusing when you get into the mid-year changes and things because they were really simple changes and it makes it hard when you are trying to figure out what kind of things your particular car should have so it is more year or build correct.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:55 am

With VW, they didn't like waiting around for the next model year once they had designed and approved an upgrade, they'd just order the new parts, use up what was in the pipeline, proably stashing a certain amount aside for replacement parts, and then go to the new. That would change later on in the 60s, with the yearly US government regulations requiring safety upgrades they'd start to tend to make more and more changes at the model year beginning.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:07 am

airkewld63 wrote: It is just so confusing when you get into the mid-year changes and things because they were really simple changes and it makes it hard when you are trying to figure out what kind of things your particular car should have so it is more year or build correct.

Try owning a '67! :shock: ](*,)

Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:14 am

Agave wrote: I am so glad to have a 58 that has all it's goodies \:D/ It gets complicated when VW does the year end changes??? same as a 59, snow flakes, early steering wheel, ice picks, etc. I dont like the mohair though but it is growing on me (no pun intended), and I like the look of the later steering wheels, the ice picks are sweet though.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:14 am

67 Florida Deluxe wrote: airkewld63 wrote: It is just so confusing when you get into the mid-year changes and things because they were really simple changes and it makes it hard when you are trying to figure out what kind of things your particular car should have so it is more year or build correct.

Try owning a '67! :shock: ](*,)

Yeah, I can't imagine how confused and stressed out I would be if I had a "year only" car. wow!