TheSamba.com :: View topic - Tires: BFG ATs or Toyyos?Exact palcement for 4wd stickers

Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:49 pm

I'm looking into upgrading my tires in my Syncro, the PO has 15" old Audi rims.. The look too wimpy for me (they will be for sale if your interested)How do I post a pic BTW? The guy sat tire place said these Toyyos are actually better and a lil cheaper, whats the max size you think i can go, I got a list things I want to do, and new shock and a 2" lift are on it, but not for a while, I am rebuilding the tranny and doing a conversion this summer... [/img]

Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:25 pm

I trust you have been here?

http://www.roadhaus.com/tires.html

Chose wisely.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:04 am

mike_z wrote: I'm looking into upgrading my tires in my Syncro, the PO has 15" old Audi rims.. The look too wimpy for me (they will be for sale if your interested)How do I post a pic BTW? The guy sat tire place said these Toyyos are actually better and a lil cheaper, whats the max size you think i can go, I got a list things I want to do, and new shock and a 2" lift are on it, but not for a while, I am rebuilding the tranny and doing a conversion this summer... [/img]

I recently got the General Grabber AT2 on my van. I have the BFG AT on my Jeep. So far I like the General Grabbers better and they are cheaper.

Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:21 am

Both are great tires, and quality brands.

Assuming you are talking about the Toyo Open Country AT. The BFG is designed more aggressively to excel more in off road conditons, the Toyo a little less aggressive. The BFG is stiffer, ( better again for off road), so it gives a noticebly stiffer and louder road ride. Toy has the edge in wet pavement.

If you think you may end up in gumbo mud ( or frequent any mud for that matter) , while the BFG AT is certainly no Mud Terrain, it seems to be the best of the ATs in the mud

I went with Kelly Springfield Pathfinder AT's because:

1. Discounted to $433 mounted/balanced/out the door because a lady's husband made her return them because she bought tires for the SUV without him. (Whatever... it worked for me) Exact size I was looking for. I will not lie, the $433 was the Deal Maker.

2. I wanted my tires to excel in high speed, wet asphalt conditions and still give good security off pavement. The Kellys are a little softer, and have lived up to they're wet pavement claims. Outstanding. And tread design is a little more aggressive for off roading than the Toyo.

3. They have a strong/lite weight nylon sidewall, well suited to the relative lite weight of my van. Lighter tire means better acceleration, less wear & tear on drive line parts, and better mpg. Almost 15 pounds per tire lighter than the BFG AT. Nylon sidewall is strong enough to prevent most rock cuts, given the type of off roading I do.(knock on wood)

I bought the van last February and immediately lifted it and installed the tires. (30" tall, see sig) Have already driven over 2 thousand off pavement miles with them, and over the North Cascades Pass numerous times driving 65-90mph, rain and shine, no problems. So far, very happy with them.

If I had to pay full price, it would have been very agonizing to decide between the Kelly's and the two you are considering. If you get a deal on the Geolanders, they are very good, too.

Good luck with your decision, and the rest of your build.

P.S. If you are going for the "gnarly" look, the BFG AT's win hands down.

Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:22 am

I know the tuff part is trying to balance perfromance with looks... the BFGS by far look the coolest i had them on a 98 chereokee and the perfomed pretty well... Just heard I few bad things on here.I'll be moving to alaska next year and wil have onther set with studs. Anyways, thanks alot for your insight :D

Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:44 pm

Pacemark Snowtrakker ST/2. who sells these tires? i just bought a suzuki samurai and it has a new set of 205/70-15 on it. look like a well made tire