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Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:02 pm

currently have a bus with a type 3 trans.
Thinking about getting a quality rebuilt early bus trans.
Kinda want to keep the rgb and wantted to know if there would be anything I'd need to change (since po had the type 3 trans put in, I'm not sure of any changes or mods that might have taken place by doing so).
It is lower via staight axle kit in back.

Any input would be great, if more info is need I could do my best to supply it!

Thanks

Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:09 pm

This question is confusing. You say you want to "keep the RGB" yet you say that the PO had a T3 trans and a straight axle kit in it, which means you don't have reduction boxes.

The T3 trans turns forward, the bus trans set up to work with RGBs turns backward.

Could you clarify what you intend to do? It sounds to me like you need a complete bus trans, with RGBs, drum to drum.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:19 pm

You may also need a set of bus springplates... to go back to GRB's.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:34 pm

now I'm confussed
Po "said" type 3 trans was in it.
How could I tell?
It has two drain plugs ok it and 1 fill plug.
I was told the from one was for the rgb

Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:08 pm

Ok... I don't know about the trans itself, but you could keep it and just swap out the long axles for RGB's, (axel and tube), BUT you will have to flip the ring gear inside, (stuff between the axles). If you do this you will most likely have to swap the springplates, that are on your bus now, with OG plates for a bus. Post pix of the plates that you have now and it can be determined which ones you have at this point, (modified or otherwise).

Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:15 pm

my 59 panel used to have a type 3 tranny in it when it was lowered. in order for me to raise it back up and install a bus transaxle, I needed to get bus spring plates and adjust them accordingly using an angle finder and my Bentley manual. The nose cone mount also needed to be replaced. in my case, I was using a 67 transaxle in a split tranny bus which required an adapter. bus transaxles also use different drums and backing plates so you will need to swap what you have drum to drum.

Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:25 pm

Major Woody wrote: This question is confusing. You say you want to "keep the RGB" yet you say that the PO had a T3 trans and a straight axle kit in it, which means you don't have reduction boxes.

The T3 trans turns forward, the bus trans set up to work with RGBs turns backward.

Could you clarify what you intend to do? It sounds to me like you need a complete bus trans, with RGBs, drum to drum.

Look at this:http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=271864&highlight=ring+gear+flip

Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:35 pm

You could probably find someone with a stock-height bus that would be willing to trade you everything straight across.

(I'm not him). :D

Fri Aug 22, 2008 7:45 pm

For "safety's sake" look at this one too... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2...mp;start=0 I ain't "That Guy" either BUT... I'll trade some OG springplates for your other ones, (assuming that they aren't hacks).

Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:52 pm

I still want my bus to be lowered, if i were to get a bus trans with RGB, will i be able to keep this straight axle kit and just swap out the trans? if not what will I need? These are the springplates I have (posted above). I believe the stock bus plates don't have that notch in them, correct!?

Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:00 pm

mikey1two wrote: I still want my bus to be lowered, if i were to get a bus trans with RGB, will i be able to keep this straight axle kit and just swap out the trans? if not what will I need? These are the springplates I have (posted above). I believe the stock bus plates don't have that notch in them, correct!?
1) stock spring plates do not have that notch
2) If you install RGBs, you remove the straight axle kit you have to put the RGBs on. They install in the same place, (bolt to the center section of the transmission) so it's an either/or thing. Either you don't have RGBs at the ends of the axles tubes (like a type I or type III), or you do have RGBs.

What are you wanting to do and why?
If you are wanting to keep it lowered why are you wanting the RGBs?

I would figure out what's going on there before even doing anything.

Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:38 am

I see rear disc braes in the pic. When you change to RGBs you most likely are going to have to change back to drum brakes.

Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:51 am

Maybe the rgb is not nessessary!
I don't know what I want I want to do!
I heard that the bus trans is strong.
I want a good trans that can push my bus around my local freeways loaded with my friends.
Will the bus trans work or will I have to stick with at type 1 or 3?

Sorry not knowing much about the trans on the bus!

Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:10 pm

If you want to keep it lowered and there is nothing wrong with the type 3 tranny you have then leave it alone. That tranny is plenty strong to handle whatever assuming you aren't drag racing it or trying to do wheel stands. :)

If you want to raise it to stock height, then find a bus tranny with reduction boxes and stock spring plates and repalce the type 3 tranny and swing axel setup.

Bottom line... If it aint broke, don't fix it.

Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:25 pm

trans is of unknown condition
I'm wanting a good rebulid.
This trans I have now, the reverse is shot.
And I would like to know what I have so when I run into problems like now, I will be able to give you guys more accurate info to more accuratly help me. Not to mention stop from looking like a total idiot!

Thanks

BTW is there any way of telling what trans I have and what side my gears are on ( if it's been flipped or not)?