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Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:26 pm

Yeah I know I'm a big dork but I just noticed that today's featured entry on Wikipedia is the Type 2:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

(next to Ronald Reagan--strange juxtaposition!!)

Here's the entry itself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VW_Type_2

If you haven't seen it yet, it's a pretty neat encyclopedia, completely open-content, free, and user edited.
Cool

Now back to work!

Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:07 am

Old thread, but I thought it would be the best place to post. It seems there are a few errors. It states

Quote:
The year 1971 also saw exterior revisions including relocated front turn indicators, squared off and set higher in the valance, above the headlights – 1972 saw square-profiled bumpers, which became standard until the end of the T2 in 1979.

I suppose 72 production saw square profile bumpers, but they use model year when referring to year before this in the article. Front turn signal indicators, of course, were relocated in 73 model year also.

It goes on

Quote:
By 1974, the T2 had gained its final shape

I guess they could be talking about the fuel door.

Besides that, a pretty good read. I'm sure there could be other errors.

Seems like it is authored by a European, though. Is the "type" terminology they use somehow official? They kinda jump right into that, the Type1 Type 2. :P I suppose it's irrelevant largely with our Type 2 Type 2's. :)

Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:17 am

nathansnathan wrote:

Seems like it is authored by a European, though. Is the "type" terminology they use somehow official? They kinda jump right into that, the Type1 Type 2. :P I suppose it's irrelevant largely with our Type 2 Type 2's. :)

Type 2 is the official VW name for the Bus. Type 1 is Beetle.

Actually we have T2 Type 2s. Where the T1 T2 T3 thing came from I do not know.

Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:27 am

Doesn't the "T" stand for "Type", or "Typ", which is German for "Type". If so it is equivalent to Type 1 Type 2 etc.

Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:31 pm

nathansnathan wrote: Doesn't the "T" stand for "Type", or "Typ", which is German for "Type". If so it is equivalent to Type 1 Type 2 etc.

My understanding is that Type 1 is a Beetle, and for us Type 2 is a bus/van/camper etc because it was the second type of mass production (non military) vehicle VW produced, then came the Type 3 and Type 4 cars. The T stands for Transporter (same word in German and English), so Type 2 T1 is a first generation transporter (split), Type 2 T2 is second generation transporter (bay), Type 2 T3 third generation transporter (apart from UK where it was a T25 (dont ask!), and North American market as the Vanagon / Eurovan - wedge). They have dropped the "Type 2" for newer transporters, but T4 and T5 are still used, meaning 4th and 5th Generation transporters. (There are of course then the sub titles, T1a (barndoor), T1b (post barndoor), T1.5 (Brazilian hybrid split with a bay front nose), T2a, T2a/b (1972), T2b, T2c. I assume the "T1" label appeared when the T2 bays came on the scene, to differentiate. Correct me if I am wrong.

Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:24 pm

This enotes page linked to below just for reference says so, I guess you're right.

Quote:
The Volkswagen Transporter series, also referred to as the Volkswagen Group T platform series

Quote: Though the T1 to T3 generations were named unofficially and retrospectively, the T series is now considered an official Volkswagen Group automotive platform.

http://www.enotes.com/topic/Volkswagen_Transporter

There's a Facebook page for the type 2 platform also

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Volkswagen-T-platform/112267922125378

which says

Quote:
Pre-dating the T platform designations, the first three generations were named Type 2, indicating their relative position to the Type 1, or Beetle. As part of the T platform, the first three generations are retroactively named T1, T2 and T3.

Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:29 pm

Oh duh; now I get it; T stands for Transporter or T-platform. Cool! It does get confusing when people say a T2 Type 2 with a Type 1 engine; or is that a T2 Type 2 with a T1 engine!?!?! :lol:

Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:50 pm

chimneyfish wrote: nathansnathan wrote: Doesn't the "T" stand for "Type", or "Typ", which is German for "Type". If so it is equivalent to Type 1 Type 2 etc.

My understanding is that Type 1 is a Beetle, and for us Type 2 is a bus/van/camper etc because it was the second type of mass production (non military) vehicle VW produced, then came the Type 3 and Type 4 cars. The T stands for Transporter (same word in German and English), so Type 2 T1 is a first generation transporter (split), Type 2 T2 is second generation transporter (bay), Type 2 T3 third generation transporter (apart from UK where it was a T25 (dont ask!), and North American market as the Vanagon / Eurovan - wedge). They have dropped the "Type 2" for newer transporters, but T4 and T5 are still used, meaning 4th and 5th Generation transporters. (There are of course then the sub titles, T1a (barndoor), T1b (post barndoor), T1.5 (Brazilian hybrid split with a bay front nose), T2a, T2a/b (1972), T2b, T2c. I assume the "T1" label appeared when the T2 bays came on the scene, to differentiate. Correct me if I am wrong.

I always assumed that the T25 was the air-cooled version, which was renamed T3 when the waster-cooled engine came out :?

Yesterday 5:53 pm

samwise wrote: I always assumed that the T25 was the air-cooled version, which was renamed T3 when the waster-cooled engine came out :?

Not quite, the 25 was a model number, and a part number designation related to that, that somehow got a grip in the UK rather than the technically correct term of Type 2 T3 (whether air or water cooled). It all obviously made perfect sense to the Germans! (For English speaking countries, I actually prefer the VWoA term of Vanagon when I think about it, that was clever word play).

The Club 80-90 T25 Forum in the UK has a lot on this subject:

http://archive.club8090.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48448