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Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:51 am

Look, I know I'm a girl and all, but DAMN--I'm stronger than some, but I can't budge the gen. bolt to replace belts. As I had never done this before, I consulted Muir/Bentley to make sure I was doing it right...screwdriver in slot, etc.

I've looked all through the forums and can't find anything specific on my problem. (I've found other nuts, such as lug or axle, and on both some have suggested PBrust.)

My dad, PO of the 69, recently replaced broken belt, but I felt there was too much play in belt, not to mention that he had put a 10/950(?) belt on. I feel sure he torqued it all to hell.

Funny thing is, the 71 SB i just bought has the same size belt. And when I tried to removed the nut, I had the same problem. PO tightened it all to hell.

So, should I use a torque wrench to remove nut, or use some kind of compound to loosen nut, and possibly replace if stripped?

Yes, I'm a girl, and a newbie, but I'll be damned if this stops me from doing most of my own work on these babies.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Peace.

Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:18 am

ok, you never ever use a torque wrench to loosen anything, only tighten.

as far as loosening the gen bolt. obviousely the pulley spins or you'd be posting something else. so soak the hell out of it with PB Blaster and let it soak in real good. Will be kind of hard to get to the threads being that is is a capped nut. but do your best. spin it a few times with no screwdriver. stick in your screwdriver and give it a shot. still nothing? use a breaker bar. still nothing? try a little heat? still nothing? one of those is bound to work.

good luck

Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:50 am

wedge your screwdriver,install your wrench on the nut,hold slight tension on the wrench and knock the end of the wrench counterclockwise with a hammer...this might require some assistance holding the screwdriver,and dont dont beat on the end of the wrench...just tap it....go easy...

Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:34 pm

did u mean to use an impact gun instead of torque wrench? that might work, but be very careful not to strip the threads. I usually use a spark plug socket on a strong ratchet. wedge the screw driver and whack the ratchet handle with a hammer. can be a piita, but after a few whacks it'll come off.

Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:09 pm

Get your dad to take it off. Then tighten it yourself.

Max

Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:55 pm

Get a helper to hold the pulley immobile with a screwdriver like instructions say. Slide a piece of pipe over the ratchet handle to give you more leverage (don't use a box or open end wrench). Force x distance = torque. With a 2 foot pipe over the ratchet handle you have plenty of strength to remove that nut.

Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:40 pm

If nothing else works, get a 4 1/2" grinder and grind it off (being careful not to damage the male threads it screws on to) and get another nut.

Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:19 pm

If it is on that tight, it must not be too badly stripped. 8-[

Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:15 am

fastinradford wrote: If it is on that tight, it must not be too badly stripped. 8-[

I have to disagree. I needed a long pipe to get the nut off my alternator after the EMPIcrap pulley and nut came loose and buggered up the threads. I was lucky that I was able to use a die and clean the threads, then put on a SCAT pulley (with no shims on the outside).

Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:48 am

One other idea I had was to wrap a rope tightly around both sides of the belt... That way it will stop the pulleys from turning. The only downside is that you might have to replace the belt.

Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:25 pm

Ok, all those are sensible ideas. If you were fire marshal Bill this is what you would try
1) Put a long breakerbar on the generator nut and get a friend to hold it really tight.
2) Go inside the car and crank the engine.

One of two things will happen

1) The nut will come loose and the fiend will kick you in the ass
2) You find friend lying on the ground with a broken nose. (then you look at him and say " I told you to hold it tight")

Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:29 pm

Yehan73 wrote: Ok, all those are sensible ideas. If you were fire marshal Bill this is what you would try
1) Put a long breakerbar on the generator nut and get a friend to hold it really tight.
2) Go inside the car and crank the engine.

One of two things will happen

1) The nut will come loose and the fiend will kick you in the ass
2) You find friend lying on the ground with a broken nose. (then you look at him and say " I told you to hold it tight")

we are all now dumber for having read that

Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:38 pm

Yehan73 wrote: Ok, all those are sensible ideas. If you were fire marshal Bill this is what you would try
1) Put a long breakerbar on the generator nut and get a friend to hold it really tight.
2) Go inside the car and crank the engine.

One of two things will happen

1) The nut will come loose and the fiend will kick you in the ass
2) You find friend lying on the ground with a broken nose. (then you look at him and say " I told you to hold it tight")
Back n my "drug days" I had to do something similar on a nissan sentra.... And it really did break my friends pinky.... ooh, fond memories....lol

Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:44 pm

Quote: we are all now dumber for having read that

You're welcome... :P

Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:17 pm

Yehan73 wrote: Quote: we are all now dumber for having read that

You're welcome... :P

i've lost enough brain cells over the years... ahhh, what's a few more

Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:31 pm

shesaid wrote: Look, I know I'm a girl and all, ... I'm a girl, and a newbie,

Lefty loosy, righty tighty?

Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:24 pm

Yes, left loose, like counter clockwise as you look at it.

Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:25 pm

Dont take anyones crazy ass ideas from here except the ones that sounded like this. Especially the one that said to crank the motor while your friends holding the ratchet/breaker bar. Because if it really is that tight and it slips out of their hand the ratchet/breaker bar will spin with the pulley and bang the crap out of anything in its way.

First get a breaker bar or ratchet, dont use a torque wrench because loosening a really tight nut can screw up the torque wrench and it will have to be re calibrated.

(A torque wrench has a adjustment at the bottom to adjust how much torque will be applied before it clicks to notify you that your at the torque. A breaker bar is a solid steel bar with the socket adapter on the end, and a ratchet is the tool that ratchets clockwise or counterclockwise depending on which setting you have it on so you never have to remove it from the nut.)

Now that you have your breaker bar or ratchet make sure you have the right size socket.

Get a big sturdy flat blade screw driver and line up the slot in the pulley with the screw behind the pulley/top side of the generator.

Remember when your loosening a nut you have to turn the nut counter clockwise/to the left. And when tightening you turn it clockwise/right.
Righty tighty /\ Lefty loosey

Make sure the screw driver is in and wedged nicely against the screw to keep the pulley from turning.

Begin to remove the nut.

If your still having a lot of trouble use a "cheater bar". All this is, is a long piece of pipe that you can slide over the handle of the ratchet/breaker bar to give you more leverage on the nut by extending the handle.

Try again and it should come off this time.

If all else fails get your dad to show you how to do it, and tell him not to put 100 ft/lbs of torque on it next time...

Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:14 am

I had the same problem with my bug not too long ago, I had to take a hammer to the wrench and grease the hell out of the nut. Bad thing is, I stripped the threads :oops: Good thing is I was able to re-tap the threads. Pray you're as lucky as me, cause if you can't re-tap the stripped bolt, you're SOL

Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:51 am

stripped bolt? You mean you cross threaded it?