TheSamba.com :: View topic - Looking for BN4 glow spark plug '411 963 319' part

Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:44 pm

Howdy Volks:

Finally got up the courage to install the BN4 heater that came with my Thing in a box when I bought it 15 years ago. :shock:
Ian Epperson, of VeeWiki, came over today and helped me get my `73 Eberspaecher heater going but it needs a glow spark plug 411 963 319. I had to borrow his to get it working...
Surprise is it works great and it did not blow up and sing my jewels... :shock: Happy me... :D
Of all the parts not working, it's such a simple item, but does not spark at all. No clue why, it looks very clean and undamaged.
If any of you folks have a nice extra one laying around I would like to buy it.
Secondarily I am also looking for a warm air vent - footwell "181 819 189 B".
The one that shoots into the cabin area behind the ashtray.

Thanks:

http://veewiki2.webfactional.com/JeffGilleland

Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:30 am

Check with Marty. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9870

Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:20 am

Solomon Grundy wrote: Secondarily I am also looking for a warm air vent - footwell "181 819 189 B".
The one that shoots into the cabin area behind the ashtray.
Looks like German Motor Works has that one:
http://www.thingsforthething.com/catalog/index.php...qd5k1a04u5
only $18 new, and 6 in stock.

Oh, and looky what else they have:

http://www.thingsforthething.com/catalog/index.php...cts_id=136

EDIT: Oops, looks like they don't actually have it: "0 Units in Stock"

...no price listed for their one thermostat and timer switch...

Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:32 am

German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3

Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:10 pm

I have both of those Used, in good condition.
I'll send the part, then you send payment.
I also have gas heater manuals.
Mike

Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:02 pm

Mike: I will get back to you in a few days if I can't get OEM or NOS parts.

Ian: This one is for you... Should I ask when I call them? :wink:
http://www.thingsforthething.com/catalog/index.php...qd5k1a04u5

Thanks :181_yellow:

Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:03 am

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=364938

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:54 pm

Ian Epperson wrote: German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3

Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.

Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw?

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:51 pm

Are you talking about the 2nd tab on the side of the plug? I'm not sure what it's for - I assume it's just the same as the tab on the other side.

Or are you asking why there's a center conductor along with a side tab? Well, it's a spark-glow plug. The side tab heats up a coil in the plug which (I think) vaporizes the fuel as it squirts into the chamber, then the center conductor fires a high-voltage charge a few times per second to spark the center of the plug and ignite the fuel. A bit after it lights, I believe that it stops sparking and just uses the heat side of the plug to keep vaporizing the fuel.

Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:38 pm

The BN4 in my thing has a single pole. The one you show has a second that is a ground.

Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:28 pm

crofty wrote: The BN4 in my thing has a single pole.

I think that the spark plug in your Thing is a BERU GZE 16 (one single pole)

Quote: The one you show has a second that is a ground.

The one in the picture maybe is a BERU GZE 13 (two poles).

You can use a BERU GZE 13 in a BN4 heater.

Regards
Pierre-J M.

Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:16 pm

crofty wrote: Ian Epperson wrote: German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3

Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.

Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw?

That plug is for the BA6 heater. The poles are:
lower one is a ground,
upper one is the power connection for the glow plug portion

Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:15 am

The plug for BA6 heater is sold here :
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16614&cat=376&page=3

It has 2 poles too, but it is not the same picture.

The BERU GZE 13 looks like this :

"GZE13" is engraved on one side.

I have one in my BN4 heater, and I have sold some of these with the pink insulator, others with the white insulator.

Regards
Pierre-J M.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:43 am

dan macmillan wrote: crofty wrote: Ian Epperson wrote: German Supply has the glow plug:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=16586&cat=376&page=1

Out of stock of the exhaust gasket:
http://www.germansupply.com./home/customer/product.php?productid=17575&cat=376&page=3

Damn, $60 for a spark plug? OUch.

Why are you using a 2 pole plug btw?

That plug is for the BA6 heater. The poles are:
lower one is a ground,
upper one is the power connection for the glow plug portion

crofty wrote: The BN4 in my thing has a single pole. The one you show has a second that is a ground.