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Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:56 am

Hi,

Originally, was the SIGLA logo for popouts and stationary glass installed facing forward? So the logo would be in the upper Left corner if you're looking down the left side of the bus?

And would the same hold true on the right side of the bus? Where the logos would in the upper right hand corner?

Thanks

Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:42 am

The SIGLA logos (<1962) are on the top rear corner of the glass, so you can read the logo from the outside of the bus.
There are left and right side windows.
Interestingly, I have a SIGLA VW (1962 only?) pop out on the Mango and it is at the top front, so those may be oriented differently.

Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:47 am

Thanks Riff Raff,

That clears it up.

I appreciate the help.

Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:08 pm

For my 63 with VW/Sigla glass, which was used for 62/63, the logos are all in the top rear corner when viewed from outside the Bus.

My VW/SIGLA corner windows have the logos in the top center.
I have 2 plain SIGLA corner windows and the logo is in the top right.

Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:36 pm

interestingly I too have a Sigla -looks to be original- that has the logo at top right. Could be they were assembled on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon and the inspectors had not had there wake up java yet.

Incidently the windshield glass should have the logos at the top and nearest the "split window" bar.

Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:16 pm

Interesting
My 61 corner windows have the plain SIGLA logo and they are both centred at the top of the glass.
The one VW/SIGLA side window I checked is a pop out, so it can only be oriented one way.
I checked the other one I have (pop out as well) and it is oriented correctly so the logo is top rear.
Likely someone changed out the one with the forward logo decades ago and did not care about the correct orientation of the logo (the shame!!).

It is curious that tasb has one like that too though.
I like the pre java explanation.

Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:38 pm

Riff Raff wrote: The one VW/SIGLA side window I checked is a pop out, so it can only be oriented one way.
The front passenger pop-outs on a 6 pop-out Bus can be swapped with the rear most pop-out on the opposite side.

As an example, I have a nice pop-out from a front cargo door that I am going to install in my driver's side rear pop-out location. Everything will look correct.

Not sure if that refutes what you are saying, otherwise just good information for others looking for a specific pop-out window.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:43 am

EverettB wrote:
The front passenger pop-outs on a 6 pop-out Bus can be swapped with the rear most pop-out on the opposite side.

Of course!!
Mystery solved.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:59 am

Has anyone made a stencil to put the sigla on plain glass?, I thought I read that before.
oh here it is,,
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5...mp;start=0

Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:27 pm

Actually the mystery is not solved quite that easily,. When deternining the position that a popout glass goes on when installing you also need to consider the posiiton of the latch plate.

I don't have the glass I was referring to close at hand but I do recall determining that no matter where it was placed the logo faced forward instead of back.

In other words the glass was installed at the factory inside out.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:29 pm

Uh that logo above is very far -very very far from being stock look again! :shock:

It is kinda cool though 8)

Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:32 pm

tasb wrote: When deternining the position that a poput glass goes on when instlaling you also need to consider the posiiton of the latch plate.

Not sure I follow.

If you take the front drivers side popout (that has a top rear logo) and install it on the back passenger side, the logo is now top and front.
The latch is at the centre of the window frame. The three screws that hold it to the body are symmetrical, as are the mounting screw holes in the hinge, so any pop out can be mounted in any window opening.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:47 pm

True any popout can be installed in any opening. But to be correct the logo should be at the top and located towards the rear of the bus.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:24 pm

tasb wrote: True any popout can be installed in any opening. But to be correct the logo should be at the top and located towards the rear of the bus.

I disagree, I've restored plenty of buses that were original paint when I disassembled them, and their windows did not have the symmetry you speak of. Call me a pariah if you want. :wink:

Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:42 pm

Whats the story with Sigla windshields? Rare? Years? etc

Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:40 pm

Spezialist wrote: tasb wrote: True any popout can be installed in any opening. But to be correct the logo should be at the top and located towards the rear of the bus.

I disagree, I've restored plenty of buses that were original paint when I disassembled them, and their windows did not have the symmetry you speak of. Call me a pariah if you want. :wink:
It has always been my understanding that the logos always go upper corner toward the back of the bus. All logos, laminated or tempered glass.

Everett, how is it possible that the logo on you foward passenger popout be used for the driver's side rear popout? would the logo not be oriented toward the front of the bus? I was hoping to do this same thing with my 61 with glass from a 62; the logo on the foward passenger popout was toward to back of the bus.

Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:31 pm

StockNazi wrote: Everett, how is it possible that the logo on you foward passenger popout be used for the driver's side rear popout? would the logo not be oriented toward the front of the bus? I was hoping to do this same thing with my 61 with glass from a 62; the logo on the foward passenger popout was toward to back of the bus.
Uh-oh, you're right, it would be in the wrong upper corner...
I'm going to have to think about this some more...

Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:17 am

I got screwed on that idea as well. I was hoping for the quick swap w/o having to remove the glass from the frame.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:37 am

What about skylight glass, all my 8 pieces of glass are have the logo in the top left. (The general rule is all logos to the top rear of the bus) Maybe some of the VW plant workers weren't as picky as the restorer's..?