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Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:34 am

Hi All, I have received my VW birth certificate and have been frustrated in a couple of places. Firstly, it states that the colour was not recorded so I suppose that leaves me free to decide,a nd secondly it shows some M code options fitted that are unidentified. Has anyone got information about 1954 cabrio options with codes M008, M010 and M918?

Thanks in anticipation,
Mike

Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:12 am

Mike, Welcome to TheSamba!

You aren't the first to come along in search of the elusive M Codes... I couldn't find anything in my search of the site to help.
Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable (and has literature) will come along and help out.

Let's see some pics :)

Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:25 am

M918: Leatherette instead of cloth, vert only
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1777368#1777368
^^ reliable source with good documentation collection

IIRC, 010 has to do with the air cleaner, but no one seems to have really pinpointed exactly what.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:39 pm

Grot wrote: Hi All, I have received my VW birth certificate and have been frustrated in a couple of places. Firstly, it states that the colour was not recorded so I suppose that leaves me free to decide,a nd secondly it shows some M code options fitted that are unidentified. Has anyone got information about 1954 cabrio options with codes M008, M010 and M918?

Thanks in anticipation,
Mike

Probably doesn't help much but the birth cert for my Sept '53 rhd saloon (British market car) also has options M008 and M010 that cannot be identified...........

:wink:

Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:53 pm

M008 and M010 might be some thing to do with the cars being RHD .. just a thought!

Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:20 pm

My LHD '52 Split also has the M010 code... Since my car came with and still has the optional Cyclone Air Cleaner (Air Cleaner for Dusty Conditions).... I always assumed that M010 was that, but alas.. I have no proof.

Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:12 pm

Here's a M-Code Curve Ball...I tried looking it up in TheSamba index but couldn't find anything. I recently recieved a Birth Certificate that I sent out for but ended up being the wrong VIN #...long story..But this June of 1954 VW had a M-Code of 042. The 1954 was on its way to Neue AMAG, Zuerich / Switzerland..Well next to the M-Code it just says Not Identified..Any Takers??

Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:22 pm

valentinesr wrote: Here's a M-Code Curve Ball...I tried looking it up in TheSamba index but couldn't find anything. I recently recieved a Birth Certificate that I sent out for but ended up being the wrong VIN #...long story..But this June of 1954 VW had a M-Code of 042. The 1954 was on its way to Neue AMAG, Zuerich / Switzerland..Well next to the M-Code it just says Not Identified..Any Takers??

Hi,

Just looking around and found this here

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/mcodest1.php

"M 42 Complies with Belgian market regulations"

Dave

Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:12 pm

Thnaks for checking the M-Code chart on TheSamba. What I said was, it doesnt say anything. Details kid, I would like details...this is why I wrote the thread. Belgian regulations tells us what in detail? But thanks for looking out. I seen that too..but it just doesnt give enough info, I was hoping someone out there had some more to offer. 8)

Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:01 pm

valentinesr wrote: Here's a M-Code Curve Ball...I tried looking it up in TheSamba index but couldn't find anything. I recently recieved a Birth Certificate that I sent out for but ended up being the wrong VIN #...long story..But this June of 1954 VW had a M-Code of 042. The 1954 was on its way to Neue AMAG, Zuerich / Switzerland..Well next to the M-Code it just says Not Identified..Any Takers??

This is what you told us you knew. The implication was that you know NOTHING about the M42 code.
You made no mention that you already read about the Belgian regulations.

Ask for what you want, you want details about the Belgian regulations? Then ask for details, don't simply ask if anyone can help you on what an M42 code is. :roll:

Obviously Belgium had "issues" in 1954 about what they would allow on their highways, I think you need to do some research along this vein and you may find your answer.
Often in that time frame specific country specs were about lighting, reflectors or other safety items.

Maybe it was some demand made just to piss off the Germans, I imagine that in 1954 the memories of the wounds suffered at the hands of the occupying German forces during most of the 40's and the death of a large percentage of their Jewish populace were still fresh on people's minds!

Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:23 pm

Grot wrote: it states that the colour was not recorded so I suppose that leaves me free to decide
Mine also had no colour, and I think it might be related to that fact that they are CKD kits (assuming from your location that yours is an Australian CKD kit).

Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:14 am

M008 almost certainly represents something to do with "RHD". I've had lots of 50s and early 60s RHD Beetles and they ALWAYS have M008 as an option. Maybe something like interior mirror/visor assembly, steering box drop arm, RHD floormats or maybe M008 was a general code on Wolfsburg's ordering system to specify RHD.

M010 has not appeared on all the RHD birth certificates I have had, but has appeared on some.

Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:11 pm

Thanks for all the help people, I am impressed how much arcane knowledge exists out there amongst the faithfull! Out of interest, my 54 was not a CKD but delivered to UK and imported privately to Australia sometime before the early 1970's.javascript:emoticon(':)')

Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:31 pm

52HoffmanSplit wrote: My LHD '52 Split also has the M010 code... Since my car came with and still has the optional Cyclone Air Cleaner (Air Cleaner for Dusty Conditions).... I always assumed that M010 was that, but alas.. I have no proof. 52Hoffman, isn't M010 the "severe dust package" code? I think you are right about the cyclone. Does this car have a tar looking undercoat in the engine compartment also??

Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:10 pm

DDub wrote: 52HoffmanSplit wrote: My LHD '52 Split also has the M010 code... Since my car came with and still has the optional Cyclone Air Cleaner (Air Cleaner for Dusty Conditions).... I always assumed that M010 was that, but alas.. I have no proof. 52Hoffman, isn't M010 the "severe dust package" code? I think you are right about the cyclone. Does this car have a tar looking undercoat in the engine compartment also??

Hi,

That M010 for type 2 is indeed for the air cleaner. You cannot assume that the same code applies to the type I. Many do have the same number for the same change, other numbers indicate different items.
If only life were that simple!
It's a good guess though that the 010 is the same for both.

Dave

Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:39 am

Grot wrote: Out of interest, my 54 was not a CKD but delivered to UK and imported privately to Australia sometime before the early 1970's.

Hi Grot,
Are you going by a birth certificate on the UK thing, or do you have other documents showing its import from the UK?

John

Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:51 am

djkeev wrote:

That M010 for type 2 is indeed for the air cleaner. You cannot assume that the same code applies to the type I. Many do have the same number for the same change, other numbers indicate different items.
If only life were that simple!
It's a good guess though that the 010 is the same for both.

Dave

M010 for Type 2's is not for the air cleaner, it is for "Sealing of engine compartment for dusty areas"

The cyclone air cleaner for Type 2's is M155
The cyclone air cleaner for Type 1's is M153

Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:29 am

IN2VWS wrote: djkeev wrote:

That M010 for type 2 is indeed for the air cleaner. You cannot assume that the same code applies to the type I. Many do have the same number for the same change, other numbers indicate different items.
If only life were that simple!
It's a good guess though that the 010 is the same for both.

Dave

M010 for Type 2's is not for the air cleaner, it is for "Sealing of engine compartment for dusty areas"

The cyclone air cleaner for Type 2's is M155
The cyclone air cleaner for Type 1's is M153

Thanks for the correction :oops: That however goes to prove my point that you cannot cross gender M codes.

Dave

Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:45 am

John,
You didn't pick me up on my deliberate mistake. There is no such thing as an Australian CKD cabrio. Wasn't the first "official" cabrio delivered here around 1961? (http://www.clubvw.org.au/Australian%20VW%20history%202.htm)

On another note, my 55 Bug is an Australian CKD, but the birth certificate indicates the country of destination as Kemsley, London / England.
The M code is "M400/5 CKD (completely knocked-down-production)".
http://lancia.googlepages.com/56BirthCertificate.jpg

Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:48 am

djkeev wrote: IN2VWS wrote: djkeev wrote:

That M010 for type 2 is indeed for the air cleaner. You cannot assume that the same code applies to the type I. Many do have the same number for the same change, other numbers indicate different items.
If only life were that simple!
It's a good guess though that the 010 is the same for both.

Dave

M010 for Type 2's is not for the air cleaner, it is for "Sealing of engine compartment for dusty areas"

The cyclone air cleaner for Type 2's is M155
The cyclone air cleaner for Type 1's is M153

Thanks for the correction :oops: That however goes to prove my point that you cannot cross gender M codes.

Dave

Agreed, but there are some codes that are applicable to both Type 1's and Type 2's.

M020
M128
M124
M060
.....and more. I think it is quite plausible for M010 to be for both types of vehicles. JMO.