TheSamba.com :: View topic - vangon heart transplant to bay window mission accomplished

Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:25 pm

its a success... what a job. and wow what a difference in power...

a lot of fab and custom work involved.. glad its finished.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:28 pm

Lotsa pics or it didn't happen.

Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:31 pm

What you cut the body off a vanagon and put a Bay body back on

or

are we just talk'n a motor ..

Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:49 pm

working on pics im still cleaning up all the mess.
and just the motor.
i had the bus up to 85 on the bypass today.. really
a new record for it and with the mild cam bob added it sounds fantisic.

:twisted:

Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:38 pm

What exactly do you mean by "vanagon" engine?

An early Vanagon engine is almost the same as a late bay engine. A late Vanangon engine is completely different and water cooled.

Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:59 pm

What year body, what year motor?

Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:43 pm

year of my westy is 77
motor was out of a 83 vanagon
built by 356 legend bob garretson.
everything was replaced from head to head. heads were machined and done too. FI was thrown in the parts bowes and replaced with twin 40 webbers, bobs former bussiness partner clark anderson helped me with that. i built the custom headers and the thunderbird exhast sounds very sweat.

the block is was same i thinkl but every thing else did not fit. alt, all the tin , and i used the non heater box fan housing off the vanagon.

just with the replacement of the FI the retarded exhaust set up i gained 20% hp and at least 100 pounds off the motor..

bob put the mild cam in it for low end . and it worked . im convinced that i can pull my 49 little ceaser caned ham trailer for sure now.

im still working on the engine tin. i have 1 more piece to fab right under the alt. the vanagon tin just doesnt work . so its alum sheet bangin time..

john

Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:01 pm

An 83 Aircooled Vanagon has a 2.0 motor just like a baywindow, why didn't you just use a bay case to build up?
You shouldn't have to fab tin, the tin off a bay should work.

Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:53 pm

It usually does, but he's used a Vanagon fan shroud.

Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:27 pm

busdaddy wrote: Lotsa pics or it didn't happen.

what he said

Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:14 pm

mightyart wrote: An 83 Aircooled Vanagon has a 2.0 motor just like a baywindow, why didn't you just use a bay case to build up?
You shouldn't have to fab tin, the tin off a bay should work.

late 83's and diesels are h20 cooled. yesssssss.

Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:39 pm

420GOAT wrote: mightyart wrote: An 83 Aircooled Vanagon has a 2.0 motor just like a baywindow, why didn't you just use a bay case to build up?
You shouldn't have to fab tin, the tin off a bay should work.

late 83's and diesels are h20 cooled. yesssssss.

Yessss they are, and they require or have no tin, the fan is in front and it's electric.

Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:03 pm

YESSSSSSS.

Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:27 pm

busdaddy wrote: It usually does, but he's used a Vanagon fan shroud.

why? i haven't made much sense of what the OP has been saying.
for instance:

"just with the replacement of the FI the retarded exhaust set up i gained 20% hp and at least 100 pounds off the motor.. ".

and he can't seem to post pics to illustrate..

Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:30 pm

This website is based upon written communication, yet many posters have simply not yet mastered the English language.

Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:55 pm

This whole thread is basically irrelevant to 99% of bus owners anyway, since they will not likely be replacing their motors with Vanagon motors. If it is a real deal, then the OP will pony up pics, otherwise it's pointless to even discuss.

Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:51 pm

John

You're going to have to bring it on the food drive this weekend. I want to see!
Did you put the webers on it? Was that up the bypass or down?

Bob

Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:16 am

PicklePickle wrote: This whole thread is basically irrelevant to 99% of bus owners anyway, since they will not likely be replacing their motors with Vanagon motors. If it is a real deal, then the OP will pony up pics, otherwise it's pointless to even discuss.

the conversion has already been covered in some detail and with fotos. :idea:

Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:11 am

hey bob ill see on the food drive sounds fun.
and im working on the pics my daughter has the good dig camera.
and trying to keep up with the 16 year old is insane..

o i also finished the last piece of tin . yesterday . and its not 99 % irrelivant maybe i dont wont my ultra secret set up seen by some swiss bus dude. :shock: hehe
ill post it asap. i want my bus pitured with me in my good speedos
just for you pickle

Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:24 am

copellos wrote: maybe i dont wont my ultra secret set up seen by some swiss bus dude. :shock: hehe

Can't be to ultra secret, you would have saved alot of time if you just would have used your bay fan shroud and tin.
The biggest differance in a bay 2.0 and a Vanagon 2.0 is where the dipstick is. the heads are squareport like a 79 bay.
otherwise it's the same engine.
Here's a souped up air cooled engine ready to go into a Vanagon.
It's a Camper Special, he even used a bay case to build it on.