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Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:38 pm

OK.. I have been toying with this and am on the brink of insanity!! If you had a good running 2.0 motor,would you put that in a 72 bus... or would you stick with a t-1 motor?? I would like to hear from those who prefer one or the other a,pros and cons. I have a 72 bus,it has a single port motor in it .gotta get that out!!! And I got a 2.0 motor from a 77,it runs,and is good,plus a few choices of 1600's to swap with. I was thinking.. since all my other vw's have t-1 motors,why not keep it all the same,ez to swap if needed..help me decide.. I also have a standard ,clean 1.8 case,crank,rods,etc.. that I may be selling off so I may just build a 2 ltr.t-1 motor for the bus.. I also have a 2110 that I recently tore down,everything checked good,so I will be putting that back together soon.I can also swap with the 2017 in my bug.. Robbing Peter to pay Paul..know what I mean...I was going to take the stock 1600 out of my Thing,put the 2110 in that,and maybe put the stock 1600 in the bus..or visa versa...if I am convinced to not use the 2.0bus motor....Thanks.. My head is spinning!! :lol:

Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:17 pm

Boy, the purists are going to chime in here! I just got a 1972 with a real old 1700. I've been searching the forums, researched Jake Raby. Most would say stick w/type4. I would love, to but it is cost prohibitive for me. I have a '74 dual relief case,mustache bar and custom hangers for the '72. Plus many other t-1 parts. My history w/ the subject; I had a '67 Westfalia W/a GEX 1835( yeah I was one of the lucky ones), It ran great! I also had a '72 transporter w/a 1600 dp all stock( followed the Dead for years w/ no problems, IT WAS SLOW). I am now going to build a fresh 1835 for my new '72. But I will also start saving for a Raby kit or something similar.Good luck

Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:51 pm

Hey Kevin.

Do you have all the tin, and stuff to convert? I would say do it. Doug has done a ton of them, and is a good resource. (Isn't his blue bus converted?) I imagine most of the people here will say that the Type 1 is underpowered, but if it worked for 71, why not 72?

Also, Mike (Hayes, ThingAdmin) has been running a Type 1 in his 77 for years, and loves it. Talk to him.

You going to get that ready for the Classic?

Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:44 pm

Type IV....don't bastardize it.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:48 pm

72 came with a Type IV from the factory, so I'd stick with another Type IV engine. It will be easier and it will give you more hp and torque.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:06 pm

Since it was originally type 4. Put a type 4 in it.

Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:10 pm

Kirk wrote: Hey Kevin.

Do you have all the tin, and stuff to convert? I would say do it. Doug has done a ton of them, and is a good resource. (Isn't his blue bus converted?) I imagine most of the people here will say that the Type 1 is underpowered, but if it worked for 71, why not 72?

Also, Mike (Hayes, ThingAdmin) has been running a Type 1 in his 77 for years, and loves it. Talk to him.

You going to get that ready for the Classic?
Yeah.It has been converted to a t-1 alreaady,I got everything for the t-4 conv.also.just some wiring change .nothin too big. I got several exhausts also ,so I may use the exh. from the 1.8 motor instead of the 2.0.. Just waiting on a clutch and pp and flywheel ,since the 2.0 is bigger then what the 1.7 r 1.8 is. Doug's bus is running a t-1 ....been for years!! Mike got that 6 rib that makes a ton of difference on the hwy.Yep..gettin it ready for the classic.hopefully it'll be done. at least that is my goal.THe motor in it now is way underpowered, a single port ..PO,not me.. that is what got me to want to go 2.0. either t1 or t4. ..but I prefer torque.Makes a difference going up hills and passing.when the need arises .
Look more like I am going with the t-4. At least I got some extra good heads from the 1.8 .
the 2.0 is a GE 034706 eng. code.Oval ports..looks to be from a 1978 bus,not a 77 ..my bad.. :lol: ...the 1.8 is a GC010068., 74 vw t3 411/412. or 74 porsche 914.

Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:23 pm

Quote: But I will also start saving for a Raby kit or something similar

There is nothing "similar" :-)

Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:02 pm

Jake,no disrespect. I have read all the best respect for you and your product. when I said "similar" it meant, .... I would love to eat a N.Y.strip but I can only afford sirloin. So not all of us can get what we want,"But if we try some time..... we get what we need" even if it might not be a better choice.