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Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:42 pm

I am thinking about selling the 70 square that I bought in a box with my son. He didn't seem to interested in working on it and its not a great car for someone in college without much interest in doing the maintenance.

I love the car but it hurts my back when I drive it. I had a 67 in high school back in the day and I always needed a pillow. Just getting older and have more than one extra vehicle.

New headliner, new front seat covers, new carpeting, very nice paint, new tires, shocks, windshield, dash board, most all new rubber, new chrome strips, cd player, mechanically very sound (owned by the owner of The Beetle Clinic in San Mateo CA) still FI, great gas mileage, roof rack (volvo I think, with wood slats)

Showing some small rust blisters on the bumpers and one of the headlight rims. Missing the VW emblem on the hood, and lacking the clips to put on the new rocker chrome piece.

So, if you all dont mind, let me know a fair asking price. I dont like selling cars and hate the negotiation part :roll:

and I dont follow the prices much.

There are others in my gallery if you are interested search 2dokas

Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:55 pm

I'll give you $3.

No, I'm kidding. (I mean, I would, but I obviously think the value is somewhere around a thousand times that, give or take a thousand). Someone will chime in, but values around here are ALL over the place. Its more about finding the right buyer with type 3s if you want top dollar.

Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:05 pm

browse the classifieds and look at what people are charging for thier car in similar shape to get a base idea of what you should expect.

munkeenuts across the state from me here in NC is selling an all original 59,000 og mile car,he's the 2nd owner,well documented for around $5900

Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:02 pm

I have looked at the classified and you are right they are all over the board,

what I meant by not following the prices is that there are those that buy and sell these cars and work with them all the time so they really have a better feeling than someone like myself.

I see them from 2500 to 7500, and its hard to tell how they compare..

Are prices holding for type 3's with the economy in bad shape?

cheers

peter

Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:02 pm

it's hard to say if they're holding steady or not. i don't think that people are "dumping" them just yet...but it's not like there were a lot on the market to begin with. hard to say... decide what you want(but be reasonable) and see if you get any bites. if you don't, you're too high. if 20 people call within' 20 minutes of putting it up, you might have went too low... :shock: good luck! :D

Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:14 am

wolfman's brother wrote: browse the classifieds and look at what people are charging for thier car in similar shape to get a base idea of what you should expect.

munkeenuts across the state from me here in NC is selling an all original 59,000 og mile car,he's the 2nd owner,well documented for around $5900

For the record, it is 57,000 og miles, I am the second owner, it is well documented and I am asking $5200.00 neg. :lol: When we talk value on these cars, I am never sure I understand what makes a cars value, expecially here on the samba. I understand the equation "right car+right buyer=SOLD" but I have seen huge piles of crap with "new" paint with defects", needs floorpans, interior, etc...go for 2500-3000. Just so the new owner can nickel and dime themselves up to or over $10,000 or lose interest after 6 months because of the amount of work they did not anticipate. Especially when they could just buy a car like yours or mine and SAVE 3-5 thousand, enjoy it from the start, not get in over their heads, or afford to do little things to complete it and personalize it that are not beyond their abilities or budget. Doesn't make sense. I posted mine thinking that I was asking a fair negotiable price for an extremely nice car in plug and play condition. Not one serious offer. :shock: Am I being greedy? :? (i am negotiable, you know!!!)

Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:12 am

something that both of you have against you, besides the economy, is that you have late models. They are just never going to command top dollar like an early model. Sure there are the people that will argue that they are superior, but that will be the vast minority. In this economic climate, I think you will both have a tough time getting what you want. Sucks, because both your cars are nice, but thats the way I see it. Type 3's are hard to sell for top $ to begin with

For Dokas, I think your best bet would be to work the local angle, finding someone that needs a good car with good gas millage.

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:32 pm

Erik G wrote: something that both of you have against you, besides the economy, is that you have late models. They are just never going to command top dollar like an early model. Sure there are the people that will argue that they are superior, but that will be the vast minority. In this economic climate, I think you will both have a tough time getting what you want. Sucks, because both your cars are nice, but thats the way I see it. Type 3's are hard to sell for top $ to begin with

For Dokas, I think your best bet would be to work the local angle, finding someone that needs a good car with good gas millage.

I kinda agree with this, but only up to a point. I like the early cars, but a clean late model is nice to see too. I've got both an early Notch, and a late Notch, and I actually like the late Notch more (it's also more rare). Now my late Notch isn't 100% correct, but then I didn't build it that way either, but then neither is the early Notch. Both were built for cruising, but I built the late Notch for going to work.
I'd definitely try the local angle, especially being in California. Definitely mention ALL the pluses (like the mechanic/shop owner owned), the FI, clean mostly original paint, and maybe even try ISP West for the clips for the lower trim, and install it.

Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:32 pm

munkeeknuts wrote: I have seen huge piles of crap with "new" paint with defects", needs floorpans, interior, etc...go for 2500-3000. Just so the new owner can nickel and dime themselves up to or over $10,000 or lose interest after 6 months because of the amount of work they did not anticipate. Especially when they could just buy a car like yours or mine and SAVE 3-5 thousand, enjoy it from the start, not get in over their heads, or afford to do little things to complete it and personalize it that are not beyond their abilities or budget. Doesn't make sense.
Most people don't think this way. They want the cheapest car, regardless of condition, and hope to spend money they don't have now later rather than save up and buy a nicer car to begin with.

Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:38 pm

EverettB wrote: Most people don't think this way. They want the cheapest car, regardless of condition, and hope to spend money they don't have now later rather than save up and buy a nicer car to begin with.

Been there, done that, got scars to prove it...26k dollars in my Javelin AMX over 8 years and it still is not done to my expectations. So I am not exempt from that theory in the least. I just hope someone learns from my HUGE mistakes! (because I still hadn't learned!!!) All great points made by all who have responded and correct in every example.

2Dokas, All I can say is great car! I can't offer any good advice to price it because I hadn't even worked mine out yet. Good luck, I hope you have success and get whatever you decide to ask. :wink:

Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:52 pm

price it at what you feel is fair, like ask what you'd expect to pay for it. hell, if it's a high price it'll just end up on the 'whine' pages. and remember, someone will pay what you ask(usually) they may like that color combo(i know i prefer the lighter color combos) and like said earlier, be sure and list all the perks about that car.
i don't think you'll have and trouble selling it. if it were my car, i'd go 3800-4000 range, but that's just me. some people may say that's too high, and so what. it's a nice loking, solid, maintained car.

Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:00 pm

Thanks to everyones input I really appreciate it.

The car is nice, wish it was more comfortable to drive, have even considered aftermarket seats.

I will sit on it for a bit and talk to my son again when he comes home for thanksgiving.

I have someone at work that wants it but i hate selling cars and especially to someone i know, for better or worse, I hate seeing my old car and hoping something bad doesn't happen to it.

I will check with IPS West about the clips, I though they were not available.

They always say its cheaper to buy someone else's project. But what the fun in that?

peter

Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:21 pm

2Dokas wrote: Thanks to everyones input I really appreciate it.

The car is nice, wish it was more comfortable to drive, have even considered aftermarket seats.

I will sit on it for a bit and talk to my son again when he comes home for thanksgiving.

I have someone at work that wants it but i hate selling cars and especially to someone i know, for better or worse, I hate seeing my old car and hoping something bad doesn't happen to it.

I will check with IPS West about the clips, I though they were not available.

They always say its cheaper to buy someone else's project. But what the fun in that?

peter

Peter, I bought my Squareback from a family friend. She got over it. Think about this: you will know it is in good hands, and see that it is being taken care of. If anything happens, anything is repairable. Plus, it is an auto, and there others out there. I got hit, and the P.O. seemed saddened, but liked knowing, especially that I can get it fixed, and almost did. One last thing: do not think about it as selling: they are buying custodianship.

Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:34 pm

looks like a vary solid car with just seeing the pics id say 4000-5000 would be a fare price