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Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:15 pm

This might be too hard to integrate, but I've always thought that the vendor reviews could be a little better. Like the ability to give an overall x/5 star review (like on Amazon.com). This would allow people to immediately tell whether a vendor is trustworthy or not. Would have saved me hundreds probably. :wink:

Just a thought. Thanks, Everett!

Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:07 pm

Corwin wrote: This might be too hard to integrate, but I've always thought that the vendor reviews could be a little better. Like the ability to give an overall x/5 star review (like on Amazon.com). This would allow people to immediately tell whether a vendor is trustworthy or not. Would have saved me hundreds probably. :wink:

Just a thought. Thanks, Everett!

couldn't be anymore accurate than a feedback thread -- take your time and read it...

Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:20 pm

They're often 15+ pages...
Just a suggestion.

Fri Nov 21, 2008 6:24 pm

It's not a bad idea but I can see a myriad of abuse/complaints appearing.

Similar to why we don't have formal user feedback like eBay either, although I would like to do something similar at some point.

Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:37 am

Corwin wrote: They're often 15+ pages...
Just a suggestion.
is your money worth reading 15 pages?
mine is.

even the last 3 pages will tell you if everything is on the up and up or if you have to move on.

Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:06 pm

I have sympathy with Corwin as I always read negative feedback on an Ebay seller first.

The reason is it's often revealing how a trader deals with a dispute and if a pattern appears in negative feedback. I'm not saying I give more credibility to criticism than to praise but it would be easier to make a quicker, reasoned judgement, if for example a negative feedback was displayed in different coloured text.

A simple poll could be added to the beginning of the topic for all posters to take part in.

Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:17 pm

John Moxon wrote: A simple poll could be added to the beginning of the topic for all posters to take part in.
I'm not against this but the problem would be that any user can vote in a poll. I can see tons of people coming in and vote "negative" just to be like everyone else, even when they have nothing to do with the situation or don't know what is really going on.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:28 am

EverettB wrote: John Moxon wrote: A simple poll could be added to the beginning of the topic for all posters to take part in.
I'm not against this but the problem would be that any user can vote in a poll. I can see tons of people coming in and vote "negative" just to be like everyone else, even when they have nothing to do with the situation or don't know what is really going on.

Would a closed poll be possible, (just for the feedback forum) added to the reply panel so only those actively taking part in the feedback could vote.

You might have to rely on the "report" button or "moderation" to remove "passing opinion" but a quick percentage poll at the head of each feedback topic would I think be an asset.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:40 am

i'm sure the more that gets added, the harder it will be to maintain this FREE site.
all in the name of avoiding reading someone's feedback?
i don't understand how it is so hard to click on the existing link to peoples feedback after spending the time to look for right part.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:44 am

John Moxon wrote: EverettB wrote: John Moxon wrote: A simple poll could be added to the beginning of the topic for all posters to take part in.
I'm not against this but the problem would be that any user can vote in a poll. I can see tons of people coming in and vote "negative" just to be like everyone else, even when they have nothing to do with the situation or don't know what is really going on.

Would a closed poll be possible, (just for the feedback forum) added to the reply panel so only those actively taking part in the feedback could vote.

You might have to rely on the "report" button or "moderation" to remove "passing opinion" but a quick percentage poll at the head of each feedback topic would I think be an asset.
I understand what you mean now - only people who leave feedback could vote. I will think about this.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:38 am

Foxx wrote: i'm sure the more that gets added, the harder it will be to maintain this FREE site.
all in the name of avoiding reading someone's feedback?
i don't understand how it is so hard to click on the existing link to peoples feedback after spending the time to look for right part.

If I'm just trying to buy a $15 part I'm not woing to wade through 15 pages of feedback. :wink: I don't see any drawbacks to it - maybe you're just resistant to change? Like I said, just an idea and I think it would be really useful. Obviously Everett will make the final call.

Thanks again, Everett.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:38 pm

Corwin wrote: Foxx wrote: i'm sure the more that gets added, the harder it will be to maintain this FREE site.
all in the name of avoiding reading someone's feedback?
i don't understand how it is so hard to click on the existing link to peoples feedback after spending the time to look for right part.

If I'm just trying to buy a $15 part I'm not woing to wade through 15 pages of feedback. :wink: I don't see any drawbacks to it - maybe you're just resistant to change? Like I said, just an idea and I think it would be really useful. Obviously Everett will make the final call.

Thanks again, Everett.
change? yes,..a change,.prehaps Everett should CHARGE a fee so this site can be just like ebay, all nice and neat.
i mean what the hell? you want easy right? easy takes time and effort on someone's part and your unwilling to do so, so prehaps change is a good thing seeing you are asking Everett to take up your slack. your inability to read a few pages to make sure you don't get a bum deal.
Brilliant!

let me know how that turns out.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:52 pm

Holy Crap all he did was give a suggestion. He even states that it might be too hard to integrate.

It is a good idea that might or might not work. I trust that Everett can figure out if it would be worth it or not to implement it while still keeping the site free.

I guess I just don't understand why Corwin is getting slack for simply putting up a suggestion.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:06 pm

Matt B wrote: Holy Crap all he did was give a suggestion. He even states that it might be too hard to integrate.

It is a good idea that might or might not work. I trust that Everett can figure out if it would be worth it or not to implement it while still keeping the site free.

I guess I just don't understand why Corwin is getting slack for simply putting up a suggestion.
i gave an answer, i didn't ask to be given the condescending answer of "maybe you're just resistant to change"
i do help on the site as one of several mod and i know how much work everyone involved on the site does.
now i ask, how much have you paid to be here?
how much work are you asking to be done when you pay what you paid here?
will this change help or make more work for someone ?
don't get mad at me for thinking of someone else besides someones inability to read a few pages of feedback because it's too hard.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:28 pm

Not mad at all. I just think that he gave a suggestion. What he received was a "no can't do it because that is the way it has always been."

Either way it was a decent suggestion that has its obvious flaws and sounds like too much work to get going. It is what it is.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:34 pm

I would much rather read through 15+ pages of reviews than glance at a ratings system. That way, I can get a clear picture as to whether the vendor will communicate in a timely fashion and is dependable. What some people may consider a 5 (on a 1 - 5 scale) someone else may rate as a 3. A brief synopsis of transactions helps me gauge whether or not I want to deal with that vendor. There are some vendors who start off with great feedback but then their service diminishes. There are responses regarding a vendor that were written by people who have no understanding of delivery issues based on their location from the vendor, timeframe of delivery (i.e. Christmas Holiday Season), or have ridiculous expectations for what the condition of old, used parts should be. Those write-ups help me determine that the vendor is good but the customer is an idiot. In that instance, a rating system just wouldn't draw what I call "The Big Picture".

Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:16 pm

Matt B wrote: Not mad at all. I just think that he gave a suggestion. What he received was a "no can't do it because that is the way it has always been."

Either way it was a decent suggestion that has its obvious flaws and sounds like too much work to get going. It is what it is.
i did not say either. i was saying what is it worth to have these features?
some people ask for things that just getting off your butt will accomplish.
there is a place where all he asks for is offered.

ebay offers alot but they also run out of an office, with lots of workers.
Everett does not.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:03 pm

AFAIK e-bay no longer lets anyone post negative feedback? SO in reality the written word in the samba vendor feedback ( yes sometimes all 15 pages of it) is more realistic... for the reasons Icy so eloquently stated and maybe a few more....

This site has way more interest in a SINGLE HOBBY or BIZ which does cross lines at times but... the members who are on here for years and know WTF is going on and who is who are going to give you a lot more detailed info on what is good bad/legit and or shit IMHO than any fucking 1-5 star ratings process... :wink:

Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:04 pm

Foxx wrote:
change? yes,..a change,.prehaps Everett should CHARGE a fee so this site can be just like ebay, all nice and neat.
i mean what the hell? you want easy right? easy takes time and effort on someone's part and your unwilling to do so, so prehaps change is a good thing seeing you are asking Everett to take up your slack. your inability to read a few pages to make sure you don't get a bum deal.
Brilliant!

let me know how that turns out.

Why are you being such a dick? All I did was make a suggestion. I gave a condescending answer to your smartass response - go cry about it. You've got some serious issues. You sound like grumpy old ass who rejects change simply because it's "change." Damn, man, you need to lighten up.

Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:07 pm

While I agree with a number of the comments above from both sides, let's try to stay away from insulting each other. :P