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Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:06 pm

Test drive seems to have been good: http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=938496#938496

Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:00 pm

joescoolcustoms wrote: runslikeapenguin wrote: joescoolcustoms wrote: runslikeapenguin wrote: That locking swaybar Zancat has looks like its pretty short, it might cause some handling issues when its locked up.

Care to explain why a short sway bar would cause handling problems?

A bar that short is likely to have a very high spring rate to it which would lend the front end to under steering especially with how thin the front tires are and the lack of weight up front. But that's not to say it cant be fixed with adjustment. Even if the bar is pretty small in OD and has a fairly soft rate it would still give a pretty quick load transfer. Only a test run would tell for sure.

So, it sounds like your theory negates the length issue. It is just a spring rate issue. Same issue no matter where the placement is or what length it is or what diameter it is. It is just matching the rate up to the suspension and tires for the road driven on.

Not entirely, Where as OD is normally directly related to the rate of the bar; the length of the bar will behave differently even if the sway bar is the same rate. Like short vs long rear torsion bars.

But like you and i mentioned, any issues could probably be dealt with by means of suspension tuning.

Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:11 pm

runslikeapenguin wrote: joescoolcustoms wrote: runslikeapenguin wrote: joescoolcustoms wrote: runslikeapenguin wrote: That locking swaybar Zancat has looks like its pretty short, it might cause some handling issues when its locked up.

Care to explain why a short sway bar would cause handling problems?

A bar that short is likely to have a very high spring rate to it which would lend the front end to under steering especially with how thin the front tires are and the lack of weight up front. But that's not to say it cant be fixed with adjustment. Even if the bar is pretty small in OD and has a fairly soft rate it would still give a pretty quick load transfer. Only a test run would tell for sure.

So, it sounds like your theory negates the length issue. It is just a spring rate issue. Same issue no matter where the placement is or what length it is or what diameter it is. It is just matching the rate up to the suspension and tires for the road driven on.

Not entirely, Where as OD is normally directly related to the rate of the bar; the length of the bar will behave differently even if the sway bar is the same rate. Like short vs long rear torsion bars.

But like you and i mentioned, any issues could probably be dealt with by means of suspension tuning.

You are missing the point. A short bar can have the same applied spring rate as a longer bar. Just because it is short does not mean it is not designed for a specific applied spring rate at the end of the sway bar arm.

Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:29 pm

joescoolcustoms wrote: runslikeapenguin wrote: joescoolcustoms wrote: runslikeapenguin wrote: joescoolcustoms wrote: runslikeapenguin wrote: That locking swaybar Zancat has looks like its pretty short, it might cause some handling issues when its locked up.

Care to explain why a short sway bar would cause handling problems?

A bar that short is likely to have a very high spring rate to it which would lend the front end to under steering especially with how thin the front tires are and the lack of weight up front. But that's not to say it cant be fixed with adjustment. Even if the bar is pretty small in OD and has a fairly soft rate it would still give a pretty quick load transfer. Only a test run would tell for sure.

So, it sounds like your theory negates the length issue. It is just a spring rate issue. Same issue no matter where the placement is or what length it is or what diameter it is. It is just matching the rate up to the suspension and tires for the road driven on.

Not entirely, Where as OD is normally directly related to the rate of the bar; the length of the bar will behave differently even if the sway bar is the same rate. Like short vs long rear torsion bars.

But like you and i mentioned, any issues could probably be dealt with by means of suspension tuning.

You are missing the point. A short bar can have the same applied spring rate as a longer bar. Just because it is short does not mean it is not designed for a specific applied spring rate at the end of the sway bar arm.

Yes but it will have the tendency to much quicker load transfer.