| downtoearth |
Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:00 pm |
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| It will only get worse for when somebody elese will buy it. |
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| shaunl |
Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:31 pm |
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| I bought it today. :shock: |
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| blankmange |
Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:34 pm |
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shaunl wrote: I bought it today. :shock:
congrats!
start a build thread (you could use this one) and post up your progress...
good luck! |
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| Pierre G |
Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:46 pm |
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shaunl wrote: I bought it today. :shock:
T3s need some brave people like you. Glad you're saving that one. |
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| shaunl |
Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:24 pm |
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Apparently there are at least four people that saw the car before me and got scared away. :lol:
I'm soon to start the parts hunt and I'm going to need some pans. Likely won't start picking up stuff til September. Does anyone know of places in the Northeast US that would ship fenders/pans up my way? There's lots of stuff in California... but I think the shipping will kill me and the parts.
Any suggestions? Or do I bite the bullet and ship from the West? |
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| JSMskater |
Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:00 pm |
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shaunl wrote: Apparently there are at least four people that saw the car before me and got scared away. :lol:
I'm soon to start the parts hunt and I'm going to need some pans. Likely won't start picking up stuff til September. Does anyone know of places in the Northeast US that would ship fenders/pans up my way? There's lots of stuff in California... but I think the shipping will kill me and the parts.
Any suggestions? Or do I bite the bullet and ship from the West?
I don't know of any east coast yards but I'd get in touch with Glenn-- he might know since hes from Long Island IIRC. shipping stuff from the west coast can be expensive but there are ways to cheapen it up, like say get ALL the parts together on one pallet and ship it Greyhound. |
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| Mike Fisher |
Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:59 pm |
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| Greyhound ships individual boxed/wrapped parts. Freight Lines ship on pallets. |
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| thenastyfasty |
Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:13 am |
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| glad too see more of these cars getting saved, there getting rare over in the uk now and yet we still get advise on our forum " getting your car resored will cost far more than its worth, your better off starting with a more solid car" , then that car gets broken for spares and thats one more down that guys who can do the work themselves can buy and save. i cant weld to save my life, i just turned 19 and ive had my early fasty for nearly a year now. luckly my dads a great welder and has offered to help me out. good luck on your notch dude looking forward to seeing photos when you tear in to it |
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| Russ Wolfe |
Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:17 am |
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Mike Fisher wrote: Greyhound ships individual boxed/wrapped parts. Freight Lines ship on pallets.
I just shipped a truck grill guard from Des Moines, IA, to Joplin, MO. About a 400 mile trip. 62 lbs, and it cost $91.00.
Greyhound is not cheap anymore, but they will take the oddball stuff. |
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| Bobnotch |
Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:06 am |
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You might try looking in Ontario, Quebec, or even northern New England for parts semi local to you. I found a nice set of rear fenders outside Toronto for my Notch. Was worth it to me to take the drive over, and pick them up, even though Canadian customs didn't like me. :roll: Look in the Samba classifieds as well, as you never know what you'll find.
Rear fenders, rear trunk lid, and doors are Notch specific, the rest will interchange with Squares and Fastbacks. Don't dismiss getting parts from a Square or Fastback for repairing the rear body portion either, as the body lnes are very similar among the later cars. The entire drive train IS the same, other than the torsion bars (they're larger in diameter due to the added carrying capacity of the Square). This should make finding some stuff easier. T-1 based ghia floor pans can be made to work for floors or even sections, but they require some rework. Look in the Gallery for pics of people repairing them (even rebuild, or rejuvination threads here in the t-3 forum), as there are a few people fixing these cars, and doing some or all of the same types of repair work (except Adriel, he's trying to do it on the super cheap :roll:). Feel free to post any questions, as I'm sure somebody's already tried it at least once here. :D |
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| Square_Back |
Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:49 am |
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cfvwtuner wrote: I'd say go for it. A notch is fairly rare and could make a fun summer toy.
Fixing the car then driving it in the winter is only going to destroy it again.
I would say that without a huge expense it could be fixed to be road safe. To fix it factory correct will cost a bit more due to getting donor car chunks shipped to you.
You can go from this
to
Best I was able to do with my fab skills/tools. Everything welded in. Thank god for seam sealer though!
Looks alot better then it did! |
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| shaunl |
Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:23 pm |
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I've put the word out locally and might have a line on something nearby... a crusty Square but I have no idea what shape it's in yet. I've also been scouring the classifieds as you suggested Bob, NE stateside and the rest of Canada.
I see that Cip1.ca carries Ghia pans... this might be what I end up doing. My buddy is getting pretty good with welding and if we really get into trouble there are a few other guys we know that could help us out. |
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| Adriel Rowley |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:43 am |
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Congratulations! =D> Show the early folks what a real Notchback is!
Bobnotch wrote: You might try looking in Ontario, Quebec, or even northern New England for parts semi local to you. I found a nice set of rear fenders outside Toronto for my Notch. Was worth it to me to take the drive over, and pick them up, even though Canadian customs didn't like me. :roll: Look in the Samba classifieds as well, as you never know what you'll find.
Rear fenders, rear trunk lid, and doors are Notch specific, the rest will interchange with Squares and Fastbacks. Don't dismiss getting parts from a Square or Fastback for repairing the rear body portion either, as the body lnes are very similar among the later cars. The entire drive train IS the same, other than the torsion bars (they're larger in diameter due to the added carrying capacity of the Square). This should make finding some stuff easier. T-1 based ghia floor pans can be made to work for floors or even sections, but they require some rework. Look in the Gallery for pics of people repairing them (even rebuild, or rejuvination threads here in the t-3 forum), as there are a few people fixing these cars, and doing some or all of the same types of repair work (except Adriel, he's trying to do it on the super cheap :roll:). Feel free to post any questions, as I'm sure somebody's already tried it at least once here. :D
Bob, I have a concept, and I am in College. Is $3,000 cheap? I know not what I have in it, and how much I have made, but got $200 of work to do A.S.A.P..
And no one should forget the master mind behind the rejuvenation concept! :wink: I do not have an ego, but want to show a different way of doing things. |
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| shaunl |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:42 pm |
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| With my work I have the luxury of a decent amount of free time to do the work myself... as for a budget, I don't mind spending a few hundred here and a few hundred there as I need the parts. My Notch is something that I intend to get going over the next year or two. |
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| shaunl |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:44 pm |
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Also, how sacreligious would it be for me to part out a Squareback in better shape than my Notch. *ducks*
It's an option, but I'd rather not do it. There is a decent Squareback nearby that I can have for under 1k. :o |
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| Mike Fisher |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:52 pm |
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| There are tons of used parts for sale, so I wouldn't get too excited about parts cars. :lol: |
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| Bobnotch |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:16 pm |
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shaunl wrote: Also, how sacreligious would it be for me to part out a Squareback in better shape than my Notch. *ducks*
It's an option, but I'd rather not do it. There is a decent Squareback nearby that I can have for under 1k. :o
If it's got enough good useable parts on it, I'd really have to think about cutting it up. Most of the parts do interchange directly, and you wouldn't have to pay shipping on the larger pieces (shipping can cost more than the actual part, I know being in the eastern edge of the mid west, or western edge of the east coast). Unfortunately, only you can make that decision on what you want to do. Might be worth picking up the Square, and fixing it to help get your feet wet.
When I got my very rusty 71 Notch, Neil and I cut up a very clean (by east coast standards) Square to become donor metal. It took most of an afternoon with the sawzall, but I brought it back and used it all. It sure made doing rust repair a lot easier. :D |
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| Adriel Rowley |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:53 pm |
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Takes about 10 to 15 hours with two people to completely take apart a Squareback, with cleanup; makes a huge mess.
I say consider everything, if you can save it, do not part it. If it is a goner... Better a Squareback than a Fastback, as there where more manufactured. Plus, going to save an even more rare type 3. |
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| shaunl |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:39 pm |
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Mike Fisher wrote: There are tons of used parts for sale, so I wouldn't get too excited about parts cars. :lol:
Not here. I don't feel like getting bent over by customs every time I order something from the states either. |
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| Bobnotch |
Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:45 pm |
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shaunl wrote:
Not here. I don't feel like getting bent over by customs every time I order something from the states either.
That is exactly what I was talikng about. Shipping can get expensive real quick. If you've got a semi-cheap Square close by that's in fairly good shape, it could become a cheap parts donor. Shipping a front fender across the USA will easily cost 50+, then add in the cost of the fender. Now add in customs, and you're out some more. Buy 2 of them, and a hood, and you'll have your 1000 spent real quick. Depending on how complete the Square is, you might be able to use some of the smaller bits and pieces that your Notch is missing. Remember, the rear fenders, doors and rear trunk lid are Notch only, the rest interchanges directly. That means floors, front beam, gas tank, transmission, engine, wiring harness, front and middle carpet, front seats (up to 72), lights gauges,headlight rings, bumpers, door parts, windsheild, it's all the same, as long as they are both semi-close to the same year. The 70 to 73's are very similar, except fresh air box, and the wiper assemblies (changed in 71). The 62 to 69's are different from the later cars. |
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