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Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:34 am

Nater'D wrote: Also where can I get those little pads that go under the gas tank?
thanks
I've made these up from the thick self-stick pads that are sold for furniture feet. Sometimes you can find a largish pad made for custom cutting a piece. In fact, this seemed fairly close to the original stuff.

Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:17 pm

Quote: It's all explained here:

Right. Forgot about that and yes I had read it. Gray moment!!

I followed the instructions and have the new neck seak and hose between the tank and long filler pipe installed. I picked up a new neck seal from CIP1 - new batch. The rubber appears to be about the same thickness and dimensions as the original. Tight fit though with the California restrictor plate installed (bottom where the gas station filler nozzle goes in). I suspect all the new ones are like that. So one needs to be careful when filling up and not ram the gas nozzle into the small restricted space as the filler nozzle rests on the edge of the neck seal. I can see how these would break apart over time if a person was not careful with how the nozzle was placed in the filler pipe. There is no support for that long filler pipe to hold it rigidly in place. The only thing that hold it in place is about 1/8" of rubber on the neck seal and the outer retaining ring. Ram the nozzle in and you are pushing on the back of the metal filler pipe and putting stress on the neck seal.

Metal filler pipe was clean as a whistle. Replaced all the vent line hoses as well. So it's on to the next challenge with this bus.

Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:46 pm

patayres wrote: I ordered the filler neck originally from Bus Depot and it was NOT the same as the one I ended up using from Bus Boys... smaller size, thinner walls... just felt cheap. The Bus Boys filler neck is the way to go.

Do not use busdepot fuel filler neck.. I got one put it on and it just felt cheap so I ordered one from bus-boys.com and its the real VW deal. Only get it from bus-boys.. these guys only buy quality

Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:07 pm

the fuel hose to get:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/GAT0/2471...;ppt=C0075

Gates - Molded Gasoline Filler Neck Hose, Part Number: 24718
2 1/4 Inch x 14 5/8" x 90 Degree (20 PSI)

Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:11 pm

Mal evolent wrote: the fuel hose to get:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/GAT0/2471...;ppt=C0075

Gates - Molded Gasoline Filler Neck Hose, Part Number: 24718
2 1/4 Inch x 14 5/8" x 90 Degree (20 PSI)

do tell more. I have yet to see this before. Will it fit the 79 Westy. This is to replace the slightly curved fuel hose connecting to gas tank. Im confused and in need of picture/diagram

are we talking about #6 on diagram

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FuelHoses/09-FuelBreatherHoses.jpg

ANy body else seen where or what year this would be used for

Fri Nov 04, 2011 5:23 pm

curtis4085 wrote: Mal evolent wrote: the fuel hose to get:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/GAT0/2471...;ppt=C0075

Gates - Molded Gasoline Filler Neck Hose, Part Number: 24718
2 1/4 Inch x 14 5/8" x 90 Degree (20 PSI)

do tell more. I have yet to see this before. Will it fit the 79 Westy. This is to replace the slightly curved fuel hose connecting to gas tank. Im confused and in need of picture/diagram

are we talking about #6 on diagram

http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FuelHoses/09-FuelBreatherHoses.jpg

ANy body else seen where or what year this would be used for

The hose would be better suited for the earlier buses 68-74??? which used a bent hose on the filler pipe verses the bent metal pipe. Cool that someone found this, hope it works well.

Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:57 pm

pittwagen wrote: Quote: It's all explained here:

Right. Forgot about that and yes I had read it. Gray moment!!

I followed the instructions and have the new neck seak and hose between the tank and long filler pipe installed. I picked up a new neck seal from CIP1 - new batch. The rubber appears to be about the same thickness and dimensions as the original. Tight fit though with the California restrictor plate installed (bottom where the gas station filler nozzle goes in). I suspect all the new ones are like that. So one needs to be careful when filling up and not ram the gas nozzle into the small restricted space as the filler nozzle rests on the edge of the neck seal. I can see how these would break apart over time if a person was not careful with how the nozzle was placed in the filler pipe. There is no support for that long filler pipe to hold it rigidly in place. The only thing that hold it in place is about 1/8" of rubber on the neck seal and the outer retaining ring. Ram the nozzle in and you are pushing on the back of the metal filler pipe and putting stress on the neck seal.

Metal filler pipe was clean as a whistle. Replaced all the vent line hoses as well. So it's on to the next challenge with this bus.

Is CIP1 selling a California neck? In the past all the necks were the 49 state neck and the only legal solution was to find the metal filler that had the restrictor built in because the bird beak style was not available. I was lucky enough to find a California restrictor through Avery but the bus originally had a bird beak in it. The beak normally splits and the ring falls into the tank (where I found it).

All photos from Samba

California Restrictor plate (hard to find)

Standard plate

Bird beak style filler

Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:08 am

jamesdagg wrote: It's a little hard to get it clamped at the right angle. I found it easier to remove the length of pipe from the tank to the filler neck without disturbing the boot. Then install the new boot at the same angle and replace the pipe.

jim
^^ This.

Seriously, if you have the tank firewall removed, the access hole cover removed and the ECU pulled out, this is a 15 minute job. I just did mine and was surprised how easy it was.

Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:26 am

SGKent wrote:
Quote: Is CIP1 selling a California neck? In the past all the necks were the 49 state neck and the only legal solution was to find the metal filler that had the restrictor built in because the bird beak style was not available. I was lucky enough to find a California restrictor through Avery but the bus originally had a bird beak in it. The beak normally splits and the ring falls into the tank (where I found it).

CIP1 sells the 49 state version. The quality is ok but not as heavy duty as the originals. I am very careful how I put the filler nozzle into to the opening. Ramming it in there would, I think, break the rubber filler neck in short order.

I have never seen the bird beek version. I did have the metal restrictor outer filler in mine when I bought the van a year and a half ago. My 79 van has the CA emissions. Having said that I believe the filler neck had been replaced at least once before. I also replaced the metal restrictor outer filler with the 49 state version as it is easier to get gas into the tank. We don't have the rubber collar around the filler nozzle here in BC.