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BZ65 Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:04 am

That's cool stale air. Thanks for posting the list and thanks for all the replies when you weren't able to post the list.

bill may Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:00 am

Dave wrote: kidvintage, if you knew how long stale air has been in this hobby, you might retract your asshole statement, or delete it entirely.
Ooops, too late, somebody has quoted it, so now it's there for everyone to see what a jerk you are.
Do the VW world a favor.... go buy a Ford or Chevy.
Now, I wouldn't blame stale air if he were to just stop helping people in this hobby, if his work and time and effort is going to be attacked by ignorant people, who don't know him, or what he is about.

people that do not collect, or have collected, vw literature may not have a clue on how hard it is to find it.
especially literature found before thesamba existed. right Dave? :D

kidvintage Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:23 am

Stale Air -

Thank you VERY much for following through on your word and sharing this information with the classic car community. I dont know if the domestic car guys have this information or not, but i am sure they will pick-up on it soon. This is a tremendous resource for "black plate geeks" like myself......Aaron, the beers are on me at the next Sacramento Bug-O-Rama.

A few notable things popped out at me:

1. AAA-FEU are all NorCal plates & FEV-KVZ are all SoCal plates. I had no idea that such HUGE blocks of plates were segregated by region.

2. I am surprised at the amount of obscure NorCal DMV's that are out there. It is surprising that there are MANY more NorCal DMV's than SoCal DMV's.

3. The NTA-RDA block issued out of Los Angeles is particularly large. Obviously.

4. It is generally accepted (before this list) that the "R-S-T" plates are from 1966 & the "N-O-P-Q" plates are from 1965. What I infer from this list is that "NTA-RDA" plates should have been issued from LA beginning in 1963. So the preconcieved notion that all "N" plates are 1965 can be thrown out the window. "NTA" was probably issued in 1963 out of Los Angeles. Cool Stuff!! :D

bill may Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:51 am

PHS issued in september 1964 to my 65 bus. L.A. even tho' original owner lived in san diego.

stale air Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:25 am

kidvintage wrote:


2. I am surprised at the amount of obscure NorCal DMV's that are out there. It is surprising that there are MANY more NorCal DMV's than SoCal DMV's.



Just a guess, but the reason might have to do with the ruralness of NorCal, especially in the 60's. Everything was much more spread out, and NorCal Dmv's were maybe not as easily within driving distance as compared to SoCal Dmv's.

Dave Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:03 pm

Stale Air, I imagine your guess is right on the money. I wanted to see which plates were issued from the Crescent City DMV, as the next closest town is Eureka, 80 miles away, and back in the '60's that stretch of Highway 101 was NOT what it is now... need to go to Eureka back then? plan on pretty much an all-day expedition.
I'm not sure if you remember me, but me have met and conversed on a few occasions, I know of a couple of Kelley Parks where we chewed the fat for a while....

stale air Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:38 pm

Dave wrote: I'm not sure if you remember me, but me have met and conversed on a few occasions, I know of a couple of Kelley Parks where we chewed the fat for a while....

Dave, Im sorry to say off the top of my head I dont remember. :oops: But, I will be at the Bug Bash over in Vallejo on the 26th. If you are going, look me up, we can chew some more fat! :D



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