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Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:08 pm

late bay 1977 canceling ring. Seems to me that my 1971 turn signal would cancel after a standard right or left hand turn. This 1977 has a 1978 column in it with the padded wheel and one must go about 3/4 turn before it cancels. The part that triggers the cancel is on the drivers side. This is the position on the earlier bays and in Bentley photos (early columns) but I am wondering if something is wrong or different. Almost every turn we make I have to manually cancel the turn indicator because I rarely go a full 3/4 turn. (actually about 3 or 4 inches past a 1/2 turn). The part on the switch that pops up is on the passenger side and the part that triggers it is on the drivers side so it has to come all the way around, go past it and come back. Once it goes that far it cancels just fine.

Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:11 pm

So what would you like us to do? Re-engineer the cancelling ring so that it cancels at a position better suited to you? Be happy it works at all.

Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:14 pm

Merlin, I will test this out this morning and actually find out how much (i.e. 1/4. 1/2, 3/4, etc....) of wheel turn I have to take in order for the turn signal to "self cance" once it returns to the straigh ahead position. I can tell you this much..... I've got a 78 Westy (Federal version) and it is extremely rare for me to manually turn off the turn signal, so my guess is it doesn't take much.

Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:33 pm

Hey VDubTech aka Mr. Warmth, aren't you up kinda late tonight or did you have a show?

ddwbeagles - Thank you.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:32 am

:lol: Oh that was priceless. Hey, but ole VDubTech must of been in a decent mood as he didn't even comment about my "lack of proof reading" or spelling errors.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:21 am

Quote: The part on the switch that pops up is on the passenger side and the part that triggers it is on the drivers side so it has to come all the way around, go past it and come back. Once it goes that far it cancels just fine.

That is how it is supposed to work.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:49 am

canceling ring should be on the right when at rest. the canceling function should kick in without about 1/8th turn. the fingers on the switch rest against the canceling ring and as soon as the ring passes one or both of the fingers the switch starts to cancel. it sounds like you have the ring or wheel mounted 180 degrees out.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:38 am

My turn signals haven't self-cancelled in years. I'm so accustomed to manually turning the switch off, I do it in our Rav4 as well.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:16 am

Mine cancels like a champ when turning right, but not so much when turning left. Or maybe it's the other way around.... Any way I guess 50% is better than nothing.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:31 am

germansupplyscott wrote: canceling ring should be on the right when at rest. the canceling function should kick in without about 1/8th turn. the fingers on the switch rest against the canceling ring and as soon as the ring passes one or both of the fingers the switch starts to cancel. it sounds like you have the ring or wheel mounted 180 degrees out.

Ok as promised, took the Westy out to test and without knowing the technical aspects or the why I can vouche for Scott's input. In fact I can hear my click while still making the turn indicating that I passed the "self cancellation point". On a side and humorous note, should of seen all the neighborhood mom's and morning joggers look at me suspiciously as I make the random turns driving around this morning. :lol: A large parking lot would of been better, but this was quicker, despite the wide eyed mothers clutching their youngens' close and tightly. :shock:

Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:51 am

FWIW, of all the buses I've owned, only one ever did the turn signal cancelling on its own. I'm like EZGruv - it's now second nature.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:09 am

from '75-on if they don't cancel it is almost always because the little curlicue spring in the switch has broken off the pins on the top of the switch. earlier models don't have this issue. '68-'72 switches have the issue that when the switch wears out the signals will not stay on without holding the lever.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:10 am

EZ Gruv wrote: My turn signals haven't self-cancelled in years. ...
I didn't even realize that they were supposed to . :shock:

Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:49 am

Quote: canceling ring should be on the right when at rest. the canceling function should kick in without about 1/8th turn. the fingers on the switch rest against the canceling ring and as soon as the ring passes one or both of the fingers the switch starts to cancel. it sounds like you have the ring or wheel mounted 180 degrees out.

Thank you Scott. I suspected that might be the cause but wasn't sure if the part that drops down would interfere with the part that pops up.

Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:04 pm

SGKent wrote: Thank you Scott. I suspected that might be the cause but wasn't sure if the part that drops down would interfere with the part that pops up.

it does interfere but that is the way it is designed. at rest (wheel dead ahead) the fingers are touching the middle of the protrusion on canceling ring.