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Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:11 pm

??????

Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:20 pm

I dont know, pretty early enigne though, thats fo sho.

Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:51 pm

That thing looks Coachbuilt...

Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:58 pm

Don't know about the vehicle, but you've got some KDF engine parts there. They should be worth something.

Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:54 pm

there was a truck very similar sold a few years back, 25hp powered engine in the front, can't recall the make but this looks just like it

Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:56 am

that is excellent, i hope it can be saved.

any chance of some more pictures of the body?

thanks.

Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:58 am

/\ You're not thinkin of a tempo are you? /\ actually two people up now.

Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:05 am

save it!!! it is so ugly it is cool.

Oh and I almost forgot......

Slam it on Earlies!

Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:14 am

wow :shock:

Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:30 am

Is this engine out of a Type-82?

Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:52 am

Looks a bit like a van that BBT Bob has. Not as tall as a Matador, front mounted 25 hp engine. I just looked at my pics from Hessich weekend and I did not take a close up of it. It was parked all the way on the back left, behind the Matador.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk51/johnshenry/Hessich%202009/hessich_09_006.jpg?t=1256824293

Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:57 am

Matador pics: http://www.oldbug.com/tempo.htm

Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:23 am

there is a thread about this vehicle in the split bus forum: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=339574

Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:30 am

Pics pf the '57 Goliath van from Thom's site. It had a 2 cylinder engine, not a VW one.

Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:57 am

shit ill buy that

Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:27 am

Engine number on gen stand I see as 2-012182. It is not very clear though, but this would imply a 1942 engine?

Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:37 am

This would be a sick cruiser with a big motor and some alloys! I'd love to have this thing :P

Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:57 am

It's pre Barn Door... known as the "Cat Box" and often called the "Cat Door" by Barn Door Cognoscenti. It is also occasionally referred to as a "Dogdoor" by a few haters.

The name "cat door" is historically significant because it is the first known usage of "cat" as referring to hipsters... and also one of the earliest usages of Beatnik lingo in general. The vehicle was built by Fester Addams in the mid 1940's when he was a rebel youth in eastern Europe. Fester coined the term "cat" several years before Jack Kerouak wrote his famous treatise of Beatnick Culture... titled "on the Road.

Fester is also Jesse James' birth mother's uncle. Jesse, who's real name is Pugsley, was later adopted by the James family... (more about that later). Jesse's Birth mother and father... and uncle Fester later became the subject of a western television series... called the Addams family.

A 60's copycat show... called the Munsters... attempted to steal the Addams' coachbuilding heritage by hiring George Barris to design a series of "Munster Mobiles" Dragula and the Munster Coach. Neither of these cars ever lived up to the "cat box" stylistically.

What is not well known, is that after the cancellation of the two rival television series... the competition between the Munster Family and the Addams... turned dark.. ultimately terminating with the execution style murders of Gomez, Morticia, Wednesday and Fester Adams by Herman Munster in 1972.

Lurch, the Addams' manservant was deemed by the courts as unfit to care for Pugsley. Thus came the adoption... and name change to Jesse... so as to avoid further trauma to him via torment by other children.

However Jesse's own TV show, Monster Garage... about customizing cars... is a quiet tribute to his uncle's coachbuilding heritage. Jesse (Pugsley) gave up his trademark striped crew neck t-shirt 60's surf style... to the long sleeve plaid... button up he is known for now in deference to the beat style his family created.

Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:11 pm

All right, you had me going for about a sentence or two Eric.....

Actually, looking at the pics again, there are some real early engine clues there, like the 2 flap lower tin. Also the case does no have bolts across the top seam like the '40s engines. The regulator and gen housing should both have date codes on them.

Interesting find.....!!

Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:18 pm

it may be a home made abortion, but pics don't say all. is it on a vw pan? what is the running gear from/like? the vw aircooled engine was maybe taken from a destroyed/beyond repair car at some point and fitted there. and for the lack of waterhoses and due to small size could be mounted without major issues. if it's on a vw pan it's just like the kohlruss... if not... then it's just a worthless bunch of rusty metal. my opinion, that is..