TheSamba.com :: View topic - What is the name of the tubes under heat control boxes?

Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:06 pm

When I bought the engine from the Road Warrior (Colin / IAC), I had to give up the heat control boxes and the metal tubes connecting to them.

Here is a photo of when they were still on the heaterboxes:

What is their name so I can locate a pair? I've found heat control boxes, but the tubes are never included.

Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:37 pm

try hot air pipe, but im sure there are several names

should be able to get those relatively easy :D

Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:48 pm

Never mind. Found them on CIP1 as "connecting elbows" and **** they are expensive

Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:54 am

RIOMX wrote: Never mind. Found them on CIP1 as "connecting elbows" and **** they are expensive

Keep an eye in the classifieds and on eBay. I found a brand new set at a reasonable price not that long ago. I have also fabbed sets in the past, not that hard to do if you have a welder.

Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:10 pm

Wildthings wrote: RIOMX wrote: Never mind. Found them on CIP1 as "connecting elbows" and **** they are expensive

Keep an eye in the classifieds and on eBay. I found a brand new set at a reasonable price not that long ago. I have also fabbed sets in the past, not that hard to do if you have a welder.

I totally would, but I only have one more week to source them. Maybe I can find a pair locally...

Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:30 pm

RIOMX wrote: I totally would, but I only have one more week to source them. Maybe I can find a pair locally...

Try to, any used German tubes will be better than the spendy new CIP crap. You can install them after the engines in too you know.

Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:06 pm

German Supply has these - german made ones - for less than CIP wants.

Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:30 pm

busdaddy wrote: RIOMX wrote: I totally would, but I only have one more week to source them. Maybe I can find a pair locally...

Try to, any used German tubes will be better than the spendy new CIP crap. You can install them after the engines in too you know.

I know. I just really want to get things finished so I don't have to keep messing around. This last summer was grueling. I need a break. I need to get back in shape. I need to start running and working out again instead of wrenching under a bus all winter :)

Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:31 pm

rustbus wrote: German Supply has these - german made ones - for less than CIP wants.

Out of stock though :)

Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:41 pm

Try Busted Bus. Right in your neck of the woods.

Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:42 pm

I've got two options right now, with both sets in different conditions.

I've noticed some of these pipes have "wings."

Was this feature specific for some years? I found some in great condition, but they don't have the wings.

Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:04 pm

The new replacements do not fit bays although they are sold for them. They are not oval enough and I believe they fit air cooled Vanagons. Look for a used set.

Re stocks ones - one side has a vertical part to attach it to the back of the tin and the other side has a horizontal part.

Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:45 am

RIOMX wrote: I've got two options right now, with both sets in different conditions.

I've noticed some of these pipes have "wings."

Was this feature specific for some years? I found some in great condition, but they don't have the wings.

The wings are mounting brackets, they help keep the pipe in place as the engine moves around and you open and close the flapper valve with the cable. They often break off so that is why the valves you have don't have them. They are not too hard to make just buy the appropriate sized strap from the Simpson Strong Tie area of your local lumber company and cut, drill, and bend to fit. One end of the tie is bolted to the engine tin at the seam and the other was originally welded to the pipe. Your replacement can just be attached to the pipe with a screw clamp.

Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:17 pm

Wildthings: Thanks for the info. I haven't bought any yet, but I'll keep that in mind.

A buddy of mine has a set of heat control boxes and heat pipes off of a 76.

My question now is...will they work with my motor?

I've noticed that people on the classifieds mark some pieces as only fitting 75-78.

Here's an example:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=578296

Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:40 pm

Thats because they are different setups.

72-74: http://www.bus-boys.com/Pg33.html

75-78 http://www.bus-boys.com/page34.html

Your buddy's '76 may have had the exhaust changed over the years - it is a popular swap to go from the 75-78 system to the earlier one. If the '76 exhaust is original, it will fit.

Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:58 pm

dwill49965 wrote: Thats because they are different setups.

72-74: http://www.bus-boys.com/Pg33.html

75-78 http://www.bus-boys.com/page34.html

Your buddy's '76 may have had the exhaust changed over the years - it is a popular swap to go from the 75-78 system to the earlier one. If the '76 exhaust is original, it will fit.

Hey Darryl,

The engine is from a 73 bus. It looks like I have the early exhaust:

I believe my friend's parts engine had the stubby muffler shown in the second link.

EDIT: They won't fit, so now I'm looking for proper ones.

Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:04 pm

What happened to your type 1 motor! Oops. Just saw your other thread.

Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:09 pm

Sawsalesman wrote: What happened to your type 1 motor!

It's mounted in the engine bay...for now :lol:

Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:34 pm

Ok guys. So far:

- Bus Boys: None
- TheBusCo: None
- Painter's Grinding: Too rusty to sell
- Nu Vintage: None
- GermanSupply: None
- BustedBus: No reply
- Type 2 Mailing List: No reply
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Any other ideas before I order from BusDepot or CIP1?

http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=071256051PR

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C27-J13379

Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:53 pm

Finally, a resolution!

BustedBus has them for $59 each. GermanSupply has them for $46.26.

If I would have been able to find them in searches earlier, I would have ordered from German Supply, because of the better price even after shipping.

However, most places call them "connecting elbows," and they are listed as "hot air pipes."

Anyway, figured I'd let you guys know, in case any of you have been looking for good used ones.