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Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:23 am

I need to replace the guts in my sliding door handle (71) Does anyone know how to do it? I have an extra one that has a working key and want to swap the guts.

Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:29 am

Does the original work except for the fact that you don't have a key?

If so, there is a nice writeup on re-keying a lock that should be useful to you.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=312340&highlight=lock

It will show you how to tear the lock down. Once you have them both apart, you may be able to use the cylinder from the good lock on the other one.

If the parts aren't interchangeable it will show you how to either ID the lock to get a new key made, or how to work the existing lock to use the key you have.

Good luck to you!

DJ Roberts

Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:39 am

I took a look at the site. The problem is getting that part out so I can change it. The sliding door handle is way different from the other doors.

Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:19 pm

Do you want to know how to get the handle off the door or the lock cyl out of the handle? to get the hanle off the door just take out the screw on the inside handle. to get the cyl out clean the handle and on the round part that go's in the door look for a tiny screw you will need a very small screw driver to get it out then slide out the cyl.

Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:57 pm

Is to get the guts out of the sliding door handle....I guess I will have to look closer and do some cleaning to find that screw. I just glanced at it.

Thanks for the help...

Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:21 pm

Like most things this seems a lot harder than it actually is. Once you do it you'll be an expert on rekeying the locks. It's pretty simple once you understand it. Get the lock cylinder out and in your hands. Slide the key into the lock cylinder. Any wafers still sticking out just grind them flush and you're done.

Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:15 pm

You can "grind" them but its a poor way of doing it. put the key in and find the one's that are out of alinement and move them around sometimes that work's. Of corse the lock shop can do it but that cost. if you have some other lock's rob them for parts thats what I do. but when all else fail's grind away.

Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:58 am

I found the little tiny screw, boy is it small. I also found another problem, well not a problem the locking lever is working now so at least I can lock the sliding door from the inside. Then by having a working handle in hand I am able to see how it works. So now by playing with the lever a little I should be able to get the outside handle out so I can put in the locking guts with key in.

Thanks all for your help will let you know how it ended.

Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:13 am

this is from memory but I seem to recall on my 1971 that if you locked it from the outside it must be unlocked from the outside. And if you locked it from the inside it must be unlocked from the inside. One cannot unlock the inside lock from the outside or vice versa. But that is from memory. Maybe someone with a 1971 can chime in.

Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:31 am

I would like to remove my outside handle so I can remove the lock. I removed the screw on the inside of the handles shaft, but it wont budge. Is there something else?

Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:38 am

SGKent wrote: this is from memory but I seem to recall on my 1971 that if you locked it from the outside it must be unlocked from the outside. And if you locked it from the inside it must be unlocked from the inside. One cannot unlock the inside lock from the outside or vice versa. But that is from memory. Maybe someone with a 1971 can chime in.

Correct, 2 separate locks until 1974, kinda makes it like a police car back there if you have a bench seat bus and it's locked from the outside :P

Gus, is the inner handle off so there is nothing but a square shaft sticking out? If so lots of PB blaster, tapping and patience is all that's left, careful you don't screw up the end of the shaft beating on it though.

Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:40 am

I haven't tried my yet. I have some running to do and when I get back and get my bus in the shop I will give it a try. Right now it is raining like hell and I sure ain't going out in this shit. Just walking out in it to get in the bus is bad enough :(

I use a plastic hammer.

Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:40 pm

busdaddy wrote: SGKent wrote: this is from memory but I seem to recall on my 1971 that if you locked it from the outside it must be unlocked from the outside. And if you locked it from the inside it must be unlocked from the inside. One cannot unlock the inside lock from the outside or vice versa. But that is from memory. Maybe someone with a 1971 can chime in.

Correct, 2 separate locks until 1974, kinda makes it like a police car back there if you have a bench seat bus and it's locked from the outside :P

Gus, is the inner handle off so there is nothing but a square shaft sticking out? If so lots of PB blaster, tapping and patience is all that's left, careful you don't screw up the end of the shaft beating on it though.

Thanks SGK, I wanted to check befor I wailed on it

Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:27 pm

foxtail1 wrote: I found the little tiny screw, boy is it small. I also found another problem, well not a problem the locking lever is working now so at least I can lock the sliding door from the inside. Then by having a working handle in hand I am able to see how it works. So now by playing with the lever a little I should be able to get the outside handle out so I can put in the locking guts with key in.

Thanks all for your help will let you know how it ended.
There are 2 types of lock's R type and L type did you try your key to see if it will fit? if thay are diffrent you can't use the same key unless you change the cyl from your original handle.

Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:13 pm

It still has the orginal handle....I thought I had the problem solved of removing the handle for painting. Well guess what I am right back where I started. Same ole problem different day. I have not tried the original key cause the handle is taped over as soon as I can I will try the key. I have two keys to work with.