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Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:30 pm

Hi, i've recently completly tore down a spare engine i got that was locked up and now i want to rebuild it, I called advance auto to see if they have rebuild gasket kits and i was told i have to tell them whether it's an AH or AK engine. I told them it was for a 74, though i'm pretty sure thats wrong. It's a 1600cc dual port with a generator (i think)

the only numbers i could find are
s 4 1
211 101 101D (on both sides of engine case)

113.129.701AG (carb manifold)

113 101 211 E (Generator stand)

one of those might not even be the vin number, if it isn't can someone guide me to it.. :oops:

thanks
dan

Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:30 pm

the numer is on a flat face on the block just below the gen stand. get a toothbrush and clean off this area

Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:40 pm

found it :D i thought that number was to small to be the vin.. turns out it's a 1971/72 dual port

thanks for the help!

Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:04 pm

Well, it's not really a VIN (Vehicle Identification Number), just an engine serial number.

Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:41 pm

Where do you find engine serial# information? I have my number want to find year and size.

Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:48 pm

Here's the link. After 1970 the monthly engine number information is not available.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php

Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:57 pm

Thanks 8) , I am not finding a number like mine :? , below gen stand I have a riveted tag that has 5561 T-387233 stamped into it . couldmy motor be manufactured unit?

Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:09 pm

Tower Rat 95B wrote: Thanks 8) , I am not finding a number like mine :? , below gen stand I have a riveted tag that has 5561 T-387233 stamped into it . couldmy motor be manufactured unit?

It was remanufactured, probably by an aftermarket company who attached their own identifier tag to it.

Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:02 pm

That one was probably a Vege-Motoren European rebuild, sold in the US by ATK. Their tags look like this:

Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:42 am

glutamodo yes that's the type tag I have, does it decode some how as to what year and size motor it is?

Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:13 am

Well, I don't know. The 5561 was their series number though. And I don't have a chart of their codes anywhere. Even 10 years ago, I don't belive they had anything but 1600s they would build. Now, I don't think I've ever seen the 5561 before. Nor a T-number after it. A T was type 3 1600 engine, but if this was originally a T-block the original serial number was located elsewhere, along the crankcase seam on top of the engine. Then again it could have been a type 2 or universal case they overhauled and desgniated for a type 3 application. You could always try to pop that tag off, but who knows what you'll find under it. Personally, with remanfuactured engines like this I'd assume it's a 1600, and you'd have to go and dig into it for the details (single/dual relief, 8 or 10mm head studs, dished or flat cam, engine size, etc etc)

BTW- an original T-block serial number looks like this: